ndiqbal123
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- Northwest of England
Channel Master 1.2M
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- Rochdale
Hi Moonbase - Is there any decent LNB Dual KU and C-band
Paksat 1R 38E
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Not that I know of, they seem to be OK on one band but at the compromise of the other band.
A common practice is to mount multiple LNB's, one for C-Band and one for Ku-Band.
There are custom made LNB holders for a channel master dish that are useful in this respect. If you search the forum you will find options for multi LNB holders for a channel master dish.
In practice, a 1.2m dish is on the small side for C-Band, you will receive some signals from the strong satellites but you will be missing a lot of frequencies and some satellites.
nelson_b
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- Strong 4375 driving a 2.4 m Channel Master dual focus offset + Invcom Quad C120 K/U l.n.b. + BSC 421 and Zinwell C band l.n.b.,s - DR HD F15 - TM5302 - Octagon SX88+Optima - GT Media V7 - HD receivers. + other dishes currently in use - Antique 3.0 m Prodelin P.F. - Channel Master 1.8 m offset - Channel Master. 1.2 m.
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Hi
I.m sorry to say that you will need Much bigger than 1.2 m For Paksat up here in the North of the u.k. (I see you list being just outside Manchester) . i wouldn,t recommend anything less than 1.8 - even that would be "very" limited in what it would receive. We are just way too far off the main footprint for this satellite here in the uk.
I,v had results here with very large dishes 2.4 - 3.0 meters ... but even with those there were still transponders that were out of reach.
Some other C band satellites are much stronger and can bring in a small number of channels on 1.2 .
Dual KU and C-band l.n.bs will work to a degree, on dishes large enough to overcome the fact that they are a compromise -
As Moonbase said separate l.n.b,s is the way to go.
Regards .
I.m sorry to say that you will need Much bigger than 1.2 m For Paksat up here in the North of the u.k. (I see you list being just outside Manchester) . i wouldn,t recommend anything less than 1.8 - even that would be "very" limited in what it would receive. We are just way too far off the main footprint for this satellite here in the uk.
I,v had results here with very large dishes 2.4 - 3.0 meters ... but even with those there were still transponders that were out of reach.
Some other C band satellites are much stronger and can bring in a small number of channels on 1.2 .
Dual KU and C-band l.n.bs will work to a degree, on dishes large enough to overcome the fact that they are a compromise -
As Moonbase said separate l.n.b,s is the way to go.
Regards .
John
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- Elite 2.2 PF with Multi lnb changer - CM1.2 - Gibertini 1.25.
Ku - Ka - Ext Ku - C & Ext C. X.
PC cards 6983,6903, main receiver GTX Combo. Ericsson RX8200.
Promax HDRanger+ & HDRanger2 Analysers.
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There's also another big problem trying to receive 38° East C-band in the UK and that is interference from the strong satellite signals at 40° East. A very large reflector of 4mtr plus , having a very narrow beamwidth so as to effectively reduce the interference from 40°E and also with high enough gain to sniff out sufficient signal from a near non-existing signal footprint for us in the UK. The further North you live in the UK the more difficult it will be to get reception . Iv'e been trying to capture certain C-band signals here in North Nottinghamshire from 38° East on a dedicated C-band 2.2mtr Elite PF antenna with no luck of getting signals to lock - due to the two problems i listed at the beginning
Captain Jack
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My 1.8m does get a couple of transponders from 38E - at least it did about a year ago. But I am further south.
ndiqbal123
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Guys
Thank you so much for the information. Not worth investing in a bigger dish and C-band LNBs..... I'll stick with the KU band frequency from 42E to 45W
Thank you so much for the information. Not worth investing in a bigger dish and C-band LNBs..... I'll stick with the KU band frequency from 42E to 45W
stephan94
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ndiqbal123
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stephan94
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ndiqbal123
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Thats great
Im in Manchester UK. I dont think i have any chancenif getting this.
I managed to receive 11 frequencies from Paksat-1R with a 2.0m dish, location, Surrey, UK.
The table of frequencies I locked is attached below, it was some time ago so probably a bit dated:
I dont think you have any chance with a 1.2m dish but happy to be proven wrong.
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Satfaca
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Octagon SF8008 (Twin & Combo) + TBS 6983
Chaparral M140 + Echostar DVR-7000 HDD + Lyngbox
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New sports channel coming up on Paksat .... 4.141 V, SR 3333, FEC 3/5, DVB-S2, 8PSK
I'm back 
There looks to have been quite a few changes to the frequency line up on 38.0 East since I last had a good sniff at it over two years ago.
So, off we go, back on the merry go round of scanning at different times of the day, using different LNB's, variation of the feed aperture distance from the dish and variation of the scalar along the feed barrel.
In the past I have found that all of the above four variables can impact the signal level and it is a case of recording frequency locks as and when they come as each variable is changed.
To kick things off I have done a basic scan using an Octagon SF8008 without ultra fine tuning the dish. Once I have fine tuned the Az/El/Skew I will consider this as the baseline scan result from which I hope to improve upon.
Attached below are a few screen grabs from the basic scan, it resulted in 22 frequencies and 70 channels locked.
Hopefully these numbers will increase once I have exhausted all the variables associated with tuning the dish and feed setups.
.
There looks to have been quite a few changes to the frequency line up on 38.0 East since I last had a good sniff at it over two years ago.
So, off we go, back on the merry go round of scanning at different times of the day, using different LNB's, variation of the feed aperture distance from the dish and variation of the scalar along the feed barrel.
In the past I have found that all of the above four variables can impact the signal level and it is a case of recording frequency locks as and when they come as each variable is changed.
To kick things off I have done a basic scan using an Octagon SF8008 without ultra fine tuning the dish. Once I have fine tuned the Az/El/Skew I will consider this as the baseline scan result from which I hope to improve upon.
Attached below are a few screen grabs from the basic scan, it resulted in 22 frequencies and 70 channels locked.
Hopefully these numbers will increase once I have exhausted all the variables associated with tuning the dish and feed setups.
.
nelson_b
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- My Satellite Setup
- Strong 4375 driving a 2.4 m Channel Master dual focus offset + Invcom Quad C120 K/U l.n.b. + BSC 421 and Zinwell C band l.n.b.,s - DR HD F15 - TM5302 - Octagon SX88+Optima - GT Media V7 - HD receivers. + other dishes currently in use - Antique 3.0 m Prodelin P.F. - Channel Master 1.8 m offset - Channel Master. 1.2 m.
- My Location
- North West Yorkshire - near Lancashire & Cumbria borders.
That,s a very good start @moonbase ... is that with Your Precision 2.0m dish? ..... i,v given up with the 2.4 c.m. now this far north .... I did eventually reach my target here - 3834 H 6500 - (post 204) - with the - 3 m Prodelin - and was able to hold the lock at almost all times of day .... how is that transponder with you ?.
... is that with Your Precision 2.0m dish? ..... i,v given up with the 2.4 c.m. now this far north .... I did eventually reach my target here - 3834 H 6500 - (post 204) - with the - 3 m Prodelin - and was able to hold the lock at almost all times of day .... how is that transponder with you ?.