BBC ITV etc phasing out SD services on satellite in 2023

A new LNB isn't a miracle worker but the best can be good enough to get over the line so that the minimum C/N ratio can be crossed and/or the rain fade margin is that little bit better. In my experience in working with different Ku Band LNBs recently, I've found the Golden Media GM201 & GM202+ (note - not the ordinary GM202, although it's a decent performer for stronger sats) to work well in many cases, sometimes beating the famed Inverto Black Ultra (the classic version that's hard to find brand new now) by over 1.5db particularly on the lower FSS Band frequencies that the BBC/ITV channels occupy at 28E. I can't vouch how good they can work for 28E in weak signal areas, but getting your hands on one can be worth looking at - main disadvantage is that unlike the IBU & the Technomate TM-1 Ultra (also a decent all-rounder) the neck on both Golden Media's aren't terribly long but this may or may not be of concern.
 
itv seems to follow....Kingofsat has this

(16h16) Sky Digital: ITV Be a cessé sa diffusion sur 10906.00MHz, pol.V (DVB-S SID:10233 PID:2342/2343 Anglais,2344 nar)

(16h16) Sky Digital: ITV Border Scotland a cessé sa diffusion sur 10891.00MHz, pol.H (DVB-S SID:10121 PID:2321/2325 nar,2322 Anglais). Cette chaîne n´est plus diffusée par aucun satellite en Europe.

(16h16) Sky Digital: UTV (Ulster) a cessé sa diffusion sur 10891.00MHz, pol.H (DVB-S SID:10132 PID:2332/2335 nar,2331 Anglais). Cette chaîne n´est plus diffusée par aucun satellite en Europe.

(16h16) Sky Digital: ITV 1 Wales a cessé sa diffusion sur 10891.00MHz, pol.H (DVB-S SID:10147 PID:2305/2309 nar,2306 Anglais). Cette chaîne n´est plus diffusée par aucun satellite en Europe.

(16h16) Sky Digital: ITV 3 a cessé sa diffusion sur 10891.00MHz, pol.H (DVB-S SID:10163 PID:2374/2371 Anglais,2370). Cette chaîne n´est plus diffusée par aucun satellite en Europe.

(16h16) Sky Digital: ITV 4 a cessé sa diffusion sur 10891.00MHz, pol.H (DVB-S SID:10164 PID:2330/2327 nar,2326 Anglais). Cette chaîne n´est plus diffusée par aucun satellite en Europe.

(16h16) Sky Digital: STV Tayside a cessé sa diffusion sur 10906.00MHz, pol.V (DVB-S SID:10225 PID:2374/2376 nar,2375 Anglais). Cette chaîne n´est plus diffusée par aucun satellite en Europe.
 
rodscha said:
like Little Britain for instance,i 'm happy I recorded it on Dvds when it was on...
"That s TV " 's late repeat is rotten by ads and very low definition...what do ou call "half-SD"?Mpeg-1 maybe?
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I've seen this now and it does look terrible. If you watch the repeats of the early series of 'new' Top Gear (circa 2003) currently being shown on Dave in the afternoon it suffers from the same blurry video quality. It looks like 576 50i has been butchered into 25p by line doubling each field and then blending odd and even fields into one frame.

It's certainly not how they were originally broadcast and I presume a product of someone at the BBC who didn't know, or care about, what they were doing when converting old tapes or DVDs into 'digital' format for long term storage or use by streaming services.
 
I wonder how many people will watch such butchered programs (low def+ ads overload)
Are they in any way counted?
 
ozumo said:
Yes

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Thank you for the link,very interesting!! Royal topics and 2 long lasting series win!
My biggest surprise is the 5 most-watched films were on ITV,ie sausaged by ads every 10 minutes? and long films !
. So,the endurance to ads baffles me really!
Now,is this still the case today,when netflix etc... are so cheap?
Here ,ads-in-films are still limited to 2,first break to check reviews online,2nd ,loo visit... endurable if the film is good.... But 6 breaks in a film?? we d never reach the end!
Why dont channels increase the price of ads ,so you 'd have them only once or twice...in a film ,I wonder!
 
Transitioned to Freeview HD box over a year ago in anticipation of SD removal though have a Sky HD Digibox available too for receiving in the fringe. Receiving good BBC1, 2, 3 and 4 HD but BBC News HD now becoming problematic and ITV1 HD (and sometimes 2, 3 and 4) available only parts of the day and seems to vary. Not sure if this is related to daily cycles in satellite positioning as it currently affects specific transponders? Possibly need local guidance on fine tuning LNB skew and axial displacement, have a GTMedia V8 Finder 2 which is DVB-S/S2/S2-X capable. Not available via PM yet but hope I can establish contact with Nalleman, who I believe may be in close geo-proximity, to discuss? mvh, Chrisradio4
 
rodscha said:
Thank you for the link,very interesting!! Royal topics and 2 long lasting series win!
My biggest surprise is the 5 most-watched films were on ITV,ie sausaged by ads every 10 minutes? and long films !
. So,the endurance to ads baffles me really!
Now,is this still the case today,when netflix etc... are so cheap?
Here ,ads-in-films are still limited to 2,first break to check reviews online,2nd ,loo visit... endurable if the film is good.... But 6 breaks in a film?? we d never reach the end!
Why dont channels increase the price of ads ,so you 'd have them only once or twice...in a film ,I wonder!
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All tv watchers are not the same ! some tolerate adds, some hate them, some just accept them and dont have feelings on the subject.
The quality of the picture dosent bother me within reason, i can also watch a old black and white film without problems loosing myself in the film not even thinking about the picture quality. pay tv is a must for some, wether it is cheap or not is personal opinion or income related. Having add breaks allows the tv channels to fund themselves providing free tv to those that want it.
 
Nice answer,thank you!
I meant cheap,as 13 euros(netflix ad free) is what you spend for 2 at a cinema.For ONE show only.
Ads could easily be limited by selling air space at higher rates...
seeing 5times same stupid ad makes me avoid he product when I run into it.... not buy it.
The perfume ads,usually nicely made,with good music,come in December & vanish thereafter.
So,no time for us to hate them.
Ad makers should consider this.
 
channel 4 sd suddenly dissapeared from Astra 2 10714H. Does anybody know if that is permanent or did they move it to another transponder?
 
mickwig said:
channel 4 sd suddenly dissapeared from Astra 2 10714H. Does anybody know if that is permanent or did they move it to another transponder?
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Yes I've noticed too. I fear it's just HD now for that channel. +1 is still working at the moment.
 
mickwig said:
channel 4 sd suddenly dissapeared from Astra 2 10714H. Does anybody know if that is permanent or did they move it to another transponder?
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Yes I've noticed too. It must be HD only now. +1 is still working at the moment.
 
mickwig said:
channel 4 sd suddenly dissapeared from Astra 2 10714H. Does anybody know if that is permanent or did they move it to another transponder?
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Hi,
Is this C4 in SD or HD?
 
But, the good news is that ITV opened a transponder at 11386 V 27500 on Astra 2E. Works fine here. I can't get the HD's on 2G and 2F except Channel 5 (different symbolrate) at my location despite the big dish.
 
The SD version of channel 4 was placed on the frequency 11127 V SR 22000 FEC 5/6 QPSK / DVB-S. Together with the HD version of the same channel.

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That on I cannot get, only very rarely at dinnertimeish. It dissapears in the flanks of the Sky channels on the Europe beam above or below. Same as ITV on 11053H.
 
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