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if they change the keys you can get the new keys to unscramble very quickly if you look in the right place

they are scambled unless you can patch your receiver;)

thats what i was hoping everyone doing it so someone could help me

if i have an official card for tvbs is there any way it can be copied and what equipment is required

i am a complete newbie ,i have a official tvsb which i still pay subs to ,it is on astra 19.2 I beleive it is a mediaguard ecrypted,is ther any way of coping the card or programming a card if so what programmer and card is suitable THANKS