Eutelsat Hot Bird 13F & 13G

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hvdh said:
How did no-one think of this before!
It makes total sense this could have been a test with the old HotBird 13E at 12.8°E.
Indeed the (now empty) transponders peak about 0.2° to the West for me, compared with 12597V and 12692H from 13.0°E.
HotBird 13E also has just one wide beam, during the test they may have skewed it to the East gradually.
The beam at the West side has a rather sharp edge.
Maybe others with a larger dish can try to pinpoint better than me.
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Kinda tempted to agree given that I just threw a small dish at 13e and got decent reception on the Vivacom TPs vs the rest, I'd say I was aligned a bit more towards 12.8-9 degrees than 13e.
 
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The signal on Vivacom muxes is 1dB stronger in my area since the last scan, and all are empty.
 

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The evaluation transponder tests for Eumetsat have been switched on and should last a few weeks. Both should be on Hotbird 13G.

Txp-1 11219H
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Txp-14 11470V
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12616 H, 12635 V, 12673 V and 12713 V back on.
12654 H not active!
Very strong signal!
EDIT: 12654 H also active now!

All channels with EPG now!
The channels which were on 12654 H are on other frequencies now.
As an example City TV was on 12654 H but is on 12635 V now and so on.
 
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In the late morning the transponders 95,96,97,98 and 100 were turned off. A few hours later they were turned back on, containing the Vivacom channels again, with the complete tables of all the parameters including the EPG.

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I checked,the TP are back but EMPTY... or enkkkrrrypted?
these channels are on 1.9 E anyway ,and visible!
 
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@solly,
it's too early to evaluate which satellite they are emitted on, I still need a few hours..

@rodscha,
no, they are not empty... there are 223 services (159 TV, 60 Radio and 4 Data).
 
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rodscha said:
I checked,the TP are back but EMPTY... or enkkkrrrypted?
these channels are on 1.9 E anyway ,and visible!
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All channels are back and FTA.
Some channels which are FTA at 13 E and 45 E are encrypted at 1,9.E.
 
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I hope to be wrong, but I don't understand WHO put a "super" beam for HB 13G in Flysat. There is no other beam, just only "wide" beam (official by Eutelsat). I repeat, I hope to be wrong.
 
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Paolo71 said:
I hope to be wrong, but I don't understand WHO put a "super" beam for HB 13G in Flysat. There is no other beam, just only "wide" beam (official by Eutelsat). I repeat, I hope to be wrong.
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Lyngsat had them on 13 F with a super beam last time the package was up.
 
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Nalleman said:
Lyngsat had them on 13 F with a super beam last time the package was up.
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Yes, as well, but I was referring to 13G. There is no official multi beams. Not because some TXPs are stronger or not it's due to a double beam ! Remember that many operators use signal phase (electronic ways to transmit) to give a "shape" to their footprint (as BBC/SKY UK on 28.2E). If you could analyze all the TXPs from any side of Europe, most of them have the same levels and footprints, while others have different results.
 
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Paolo71 said:
Yes, as well, but I was referring to 13G. There is no official multi beams. Not because some TXPs are stronger or not it's due to a double beam ! Remember that many operators use signal phase (electronic ways to transmit) to give a "shape" to their footprint (as BBC/SKY UK on 28.2E). If you could analyze all the TXPs from any side of Europe, most of them have the same levels and footprints, while others have different results.
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The only thing I know for sure is I'm definitely not the man to tell if there are more than one beam on 13 F/G. Maybe the future will tell...
 
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Marcus_21 said:
In the late morning the transponders 95,96,97,98 and 100 were turned off. A few hours later they were turned back on, containing the Vivacom channels again, with the complete tables of all the parameters including the EPG.

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From checking the spectra of the last few hours, it appears that they come from 13F.
 
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Yesterday,around midnight,I re-scanned the 3 TPs with FTA channels,and ,bingo!,they worked fine ,Bulgaria was back on 13e!
with tv5 and france 24 to give it a "French touch"!
 
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Paolo71 said:
I hope to be wrong, but I don't understand WHO put a "super" beam for HB 13G in Flysat. There is no other beam, just only "wide" beam (official by Eutelsat). I repeat, I hope to be wrong.
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You are right , I agree with you.
officially there's no super beam
 
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