Best Closed Source Receiver.

[TJExcalibur]

I have a mate who has a system with an age old Technomate receiver. He has seen open source receivers VU+ etc and thinks he will get lost with it all. He wants a really good multi sat receiver, HD and able to stream it to his TV in another room. I do not really know but maybe you have a few ideas.

 

[A nonymous]

One of the newer Technomate receivers may his bet bet, Something like the 5402-HD.

It appears to have RF out, but i'm not sure if it has an RF Modulator.

 

[Trust]

One of the newer Technomate receivers may his bet bet, Something like the 5402-HD.

It appears to have RF out, but i'm not sure if it has an RF Modulator.

In the menu you can change the RF output channel , so there must be a modulator inside .

 

[Trust]

The TM 5402 did not find TP 11.605 H SR 990 at 45º W , also store by hand was not possible . My F16 found 5 radio channels .
A search with the TM at 27.5 W TP 11.495 V SR 44.099 give no result , my F16 found 17 radio and 26 tv channels .

 

[gibertini]

The TM 5402 did not find TP 11.605 H SR 990 at 45º W , also store by hand was not possible . My F16 found 5 radio channels .
A search with the TM at 27.5 W TP 11.495 V SR 44.099 give no result , my F16 found 17 radio and 26 tv channels .

i take it you mean to the latest incarnation?, the TM5402HD M3. as others have also said its swings and roundabouts with the M1/M2/F15/F16 finding/locking txp,s that the M3 could not and visa/versa. personally i like the M1/M2/F15/F16 over the M3/F3-5/D15 but others say the opposite... the latter always get the 3rd party goodies first also.

 

[Trust]

Yes sorry i did not mentioned M3

 

[Analoguesat]

The TM 5402 did not find TP 11.605 H SR 990 at 45º W , also store by hand was not possible . My F16 found 5 radio channels .
A search with the TM at 27.5 W TP 11.495 V SR 44.099 give no result , my F16 found 17 radio and 26 tv channels .

Try putting the SR to 1000 - the M3 doesnt find anything below 1000.

Its also lousy at discriminating between closely SCPC tp's

27.5Wis out because it wont read the encrypted PAT. More than one member has bricked their 5402 trying to get it working on the BBC channels

 

[rolfw]

Was playing with an Icecrypt on Wednesday, trying to get it to tune a feed on 1W and no matter what I did it wouldn't find it, even though I was watching the feed on my meter via the loopthrough, so I'd discount that one.

 

[Captain Jack]

There are so many receivers out there that are just a waste of cash. Granted, I haven't tried most of them but they just don't appeal to me at all. Stick to well known brands... I like my F15, both of them.

I also have an issue with countless Enigma2 receivers out there. Looks like there's a new company producing them every week. Somehow I feel sorry for Dreambox that everyone had jumped on their bandwagon, but they did shot themselves in the foot with their ridiculous pricing.

 

[william-1]

The TM6900HD Combo Super+ TM6800HD & the TM6902HD Super are far superior to the TM5402HD series/Hubtech,

The TM6900HD Combo Super+ & the TM6902HD Super do not have these inherent software faults for example the TM5402HD M1 & M2 have a recurring 45,000 symbol rate error that will arises when a low symbol rate is in use all clones of this model Blade 7000s,DrHD D15 & DrHD F16, Strong,ClarkTech,Hubtech ect have this software error,

The TM5402HD M3 does not have this error but does have a data base Network Scan error this means that this version adds non existent transponders on most satellites,
Even if you switch off the Network Scan it still becomes active giving rise to hundreds of transponders with no signals added to your database most annoying,

Just check out these 4 satellites in your satellite data base if you have one of the receivers mentioned Turksat @ 42 east,Eutelsat 16A @ 16 east, Eutelsat @ 7 east,
Eutelsat 7A west @ 7.3 west & see how many dead transponders you have in your database

So if you want a good Closed Source satellite receiver with excellent support look no further than the TM6900 series.

 

[TJExcalibur]

I believe william-1 is spot on. I started of off with a Technomate about 12 years ago. Great stuff but then read that Dreambox was the best thing in receivers. I just had to have one and it was good. Since then I have had Gigablu and VU+ and all good. BUT I have since realised I was spending hours getting frustrated with so many settings, some I could never fathom out what the hell they did. It became an obsession to master all the complexities of open source and I often ended up frustrated, irritated and disappointed. I packed the whole lot away whilst I worked on house extensions and since returning to it all decided I simply wanted a receiver that did most things without me having to worry about cams, soft cams, clines etc. I did not want to sit there and watch an arrow circling around a dish whilst it sorted itself out. How many times I muttered is this thing going to ask me to send in a log. Nightly builds, updates! Therefore I will get a cheap TM for now as I think some new receivers will be here in the autumn. If I think I want to play with open source I can get a cheap basic box from Ebay. Many thanks to william-1 and for his regular Just Sharing This Strongest Transponders.

 

[moonbase]

So if you want a good Closed Source satellite receiver with excellent support look no further than the TM6900 series.

William,

Do the TM-6900 and TM-6902 have the issue with incorrect reporting of Frequency/SR from a blind scan that was present in some Technomate models?

Rgds

 

[william-1]

William,

Do the TM-6900 and TM-6902 have the issue with incorrect reporting of Frequency/SR from a blind scan that was present in some Technomate models?

Rgds

No that is why I use them another reason why I mainly use these receivers is so that I can have the most up to date data base & spend more time watching tv rather than loading cams ect

The Blind Scan on the TM6900 & TM 6902 finds all active transponders from 800 to 45,000 symbol rate without errors,

You will find it easier to find feeds by using my Active part of the Ku band chart as you can scan the active part of the Ku band & choose the correct polarity on each satellite as some only use one polarity,
https://www.satellites.co.uk/forums...-band-transponders-53-east-to-45-west.165817/

With a Closed Sourced satellite receiver you can find out what is new on a satellite quicker & spend more time watching TV

In my opinion Open Sourced Linux receivers are for the person who just wants to watch tv with no knowledge that a lot of tv is missing from their set up as the Linux data base is never as up to date as my Closed Sourced receivers are,

As Open Source relies on a 3rd party to update their data base recent changes on 28.2 east & live feeds were missing from OS receivers until the software is updated either via the satellite Network Scan that only works on a few satellites or by a Blind Scan plug in.

 

[Captain Jack]

The one thing I am still looking for is a receiver which will display SNR before there's enough signal for a lock. Only F15/16 can do that and only with older (1.25p) firmware.

Do any TMs do this?

 

[william-1]

The one thing I am still looking for is a receiver which will display SNR before there's enough signal for a lock. Only F15/16 can do that and only with older (1.25p) firmware.

Do any TMs do this?

Technomate TM5402HD M3 displays SNR in dB with most software including the latest.

 

[4wd]

The one thing I am still looking for is a receiver which will display SNR before there's enough signal for a lock.

A list of current receivers having this feature would be nice. A must for my next box.

Am assuming some receivers source the S/Q (or db) from the lnb input side (= actual signal strength) while others get it closer to the receiver output (= zero if no lock).

Am using an old & obsolete receiver when doing any dish alignment, due to it's lock-independent & instant Signal & Quality bargraph. Always shows what really goes on. Also feeds a sinus freq to the tv, increasing with quality. (when it finally dies of old age (have replaced psu capacitors once) am getting a good handheld meter).

 

[Captain Jack]

Technomate TM5402HD M3 displays SNR in dB with most software including the latest.

But not when signal is below lock, right?

4wd, only F15/16 do this as far as I know.

 

[william-1]

But not when signal is below lock, right?

4wd, only F15/16 do this as far as I know.

Yes as the TM5402HD M3 & DrHD F15/16 have the same build software,

The TM5402HD M3 is a different receiver build to the M1 & M2 also they use different hardware & software the M3 should have been called the TM_F3/5 HD Mk-2

DrHD F15 / F16 & Technomate TM5402HD M3 share the same type of software,

DrHD D15 / TM5402HD M1 / M2 & Blade 7000 also share the same software,

The Blade 5000 & ClarkeTech 3100 & 4100 are of similar build to the DrHD F15,

The Clarke Tech 4100 can show signal quality in dB I have read,

I know for a fact that the TM5402HD M1/M2, DrHD D15 & Blade 7000s are from the same receiver hardware as they all have the 45,000 symbol rate error when a low symbol rate is in use it gets confused & 45,000 is assigned to the transponder :mad:

That is one reason why I have gradually got rid of these receivers for feed hunting.

 

[william-1]

More information here not up to date but it will give you an idea of what satellite receivers share in build & software you may recognise some of them under a different brands name,

http://www.satclones.com/history_of_sat/Receiver/hubtech.htm

 

[moonbase]

...DrHD F15 / F16 & Technomate TM5402HD M3 share the same type of software...

William,

Are you saying that a TM-5402 M3 receiver will show the signal quality for a transponder even if the signal quality is below the level for a lock?

The F15 does do this, does the TM-5402 M3 also do this?

Rgds