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21.5E (Eutelsat 21B)

MCelliotG

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My Satellite Setup
TBS 5925, [email protected] HD51, EDISION OSMINI, MABO 130X144, DRAGONSAT DS3000 LED MOTOR, INVERTO BLACK ULTRA TWIN LNB
My Location
Thessaloniki, Greece
Fabulous, is that with the 1.80? BTW, today I finally managed to tune my dish arc to perfection after a very long time. I'm so excited to finally bring all the potential my 1.30 can give me. So I will compare how 10919 fares now, stay tuned! lol
 
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My Satellite Setup
Xtrend ET10000 DVB-C, S2, T and IPTV
80 cm fixed dish (28.2E/23.5E/19.2E/13E)
120cm Channel Master offset dish with polarmount (23.5E-34.5W)
(150cm PF dish temporary offline)
My Location
The Netherlands
Still nothing here. Other signals f.e. 11394 H 2690 8.5 dB, 11488 V 2150 8.9 dB, 11491 V 2210 11 dB, 11497 V 2170 7.5 dB, 11519 H 3220 10.6 dB.
Even with Satlink meter tested directly on the LNB: 11491 V 11dB, 10919 H: zero.

Is it for certain that 10919 H is on Wide Beam? It should be if this frequency sheet is right.

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hvdh

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My Satellite Setup
Dr.HD F16, TBS 6925, T-55, Laminas 120 cm
My Location
Oss, NL (5.5°E 51.8°N)
Your dish (120 cm I suppose) is performing bad, or not pointing well, the dB values are too low!
Here I get, of the others you listed (in your order): 13.2, 13.2, 15.2. 11.5 and 15.2 dB.
10919 H is between 8 and 8.5 dB (weather turbulence).
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Kypros_Pambou

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My Satellite Setup
Owner of Cy Satellite Center (FB: Cy Satellite Center)
Dreamboxes: 8000ssss,7080ss,7020hd,Vu Solo 4K,Tandberg EN8092
TBS:6985,6925,5925usb
AMS 3.4m motorised,Titosat 2.1m
5 Pace&Arris IPTV Gateways
My Location
Greek Cyprus
My reception with 2.1m. Due to my last receptions (last December & January ) the signal level is almost the same.
21.6E - 10918 Hor ( With 2.1m ).jpg
 
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My Satellite Setup
Xtrend ET10000 DVB-C, S2, T and IPTV
80 cm fixed dish (28.2E/23.5E/19.2E/13E)
120cm Channel Master offset dish with polarmount (23.5E-34.5W)
(150cm PF dish temporary offline)
My Location
The Netherlands
Well my dish is alligned perfectly, the only option I can think of is that houses are blocking the view partially. The same problem occurs with 23.5E and after that no reception whatsoever (with that dish).
But because 21.5E was not my last satellite (23.5E is), I thought I have full view on 21.5E, 23.5E must be peeping through the two dormers. Photos are taken with the dish aimed at 21.5E.
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Only I did not expect that a MCPC signal with SR 33710 would be more difficult to receive than the SCPC signals.
 

Chris1979

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My Satellite Setup
Tvheadend with TBS 6522 for Freesat & Freeview, also running Virtual Radar Server.

Vu Duo + HRTunerProxy as plex recorder on 28.2°E
1.5 Gibertini + Polar Mount. Ka-Ku combo.

Fixed dish on 19.2°E & 13.0°E connected to my Sony KD-49XE8004.
My Location
South Somerset.
Well my dish is alligned perfectly, the only option I can think of is that houses are blocking the view partially. The same problem occurs with 23.5E and after that no reception whatsoever (with that dish).
But because 21.5E was not my last satellite (23.5E is), I thought I have full view on 21.5E, 23.5E must be peeping through the two dormers. Photos are taken with the dish aimed at 21.5E.
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Only I did not expect that a MCPC signal with SR 33710 would be more difficult to receive than the SCPC signals.

If you have an iPhone look for an app called sat scope.

You can use your camera in the phone to show you where the satellite is in relation to your "view"
 

william-1

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Epping Forest
My Satellite Setup
OP Gibertini 100 XP+ Inverto Black Ultra 0.2
(50 east to 45 west)
Amiko A4K / TM6902HD /TM5302HD

88cm Dish +Inverto Black Ultra 0.2
(53 east to 45 west)
Octagon SX88 / TM5402HD M1
My Location
Epping Forest Essex
10918 H
DVB-S2/8PSK
MPEG-4 33710 3/5 (No Signal here & there never has been in with my set up)

My 100cm Gibertini is set up very precisely for weak feed signals so if this transponder was on the wide beam it would beam in here with a massive signal but it does not so I have concluded that just maybe the signal is on the Eutelsat 21B Ku-band Western beam
This beam requires a 120cm dish in the East of England beam below:-
E21B_Ku-band_Western_Downlink_Coverage.jpg

Or maybe this signal is on the wide beam at reduced signal strength ?
 
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hvdh

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My Satellite Setup
Dr.HD F16, TBS 6925, T-55, Laminas 120 cm
My Location
Oss, NL (5.5°E 51.8°N)
MCelliotG in Thessaloniki and Kypros_Pambou in Cyprus have a good signal and are well outside the Western beam.
It's a Wide beam signal but quite weak indeed. With 8.5 dB, I have only 3 dB margin with the 8PSK 3/5 used.
With your 100 cm (instead of 120 cm) there is considerably more "push-away" effect by nearby 19.2°E.
Upgrade to 120 cm and you'll get this one.
Is 10919 H interesting anyway? Since all is encrypted in Viaccess.
 
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My Satellite Setup
Xtrend ET10000 DVB-C, S2, T and IPTV
80 cm fixed dish (28.2E/23.5E/19.2E/13E)
120cm Channel Master offset dish with polarmount (23.5E-34.5W)
(150cm PF dish temporary offline)
My Location
The Netherlands
If you have an iPhone look for an app called sat scope.

You can use your camera in the phone to show you where the satellite is in relation to your "view"
I Don't have a iPhone but I know apps like that and they are never accurate enough.
Again more reasons to move the dish to the roof (besides reception beyond 28.2E and 30W).
 

MCelliotG

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My Satellite Setup
TBS 5925, [email protected] HD51, EDISION OSMINI, MABO 130X144, DRAGONSAT DS3000 LED MOTOR, INVERTO BLACK ULTRA TWIN LNB
My Location
Thessaloniki, Greece
Here's 10919H on my 1.30, I'm pretty happy with it. It's certainly wide beam, this satellite is full of variations in signals faring from 8 to 17db for the same beam.


Note that I receive absolutely nothing from both the West and East beams, Greece is in null for both, but I'm sure an 1.80 can pull them all.
 

Kypros_Pambou

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My Satellite Setup
Owner of Cy Satellite Center (FB: Cy Satellite Center)
Dreamboxes: 8000ssss,7080ss,7020hd,Vu Solo 4K,Tandberg EN8092
TBS:6985,6925,5925usb
AMS 3.4m motorised,Titosat 2.1m
5 Pace&Arris IPTV Gateways
My Location
Greek Cyprus
Increase of my signal level during morning hours @ 12.3dB 21.6E - 10918 Hor ( With 2.1m & cloudy weather ) morning hours.jpg
 

SatSearcher

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My Satellite Setup
1m orbital dish with 0.1 Technomate LNB. 39E-55W. TBS5925 Card & Octagon SF4008
My Location
West Yorkshire
I get this with around 5.5-6.0 dB here in west yorkshire on my 1m. I scan this position regularly, and signal levels on most transponders can vary wildly from day to day. Also noticed that some transponders benefit from nudging the dish slightly east, whereas others benefit from nudging slightly west! Very odd!
 
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Scotland
My Satellite Setup
TM-F3/5
Octagon SF4800
Octagon SX88
Fibo Gregorian 1.2m
Motec Positioner
Inverto c120 twin LNB
My Location
Central Scotland
I get this with around 5.5-6.0 dB here in west yorkshire on my 1m. I scan this position regularly, and signal levels on most transponders can vary wildly from day to day. Also noticed that some transponders benefit from nudging the dish slightly east, whereas others benefit from nudging slightly west! Very odd!
I notice the same east west difference. It may be to do with interference from the satellites at either side.
 

SatSearcher

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My Satellite Setup
1m orbital dish with 0.1 Technomate LNB. 39E-55W. TBS5925 Card & Octagon SF4008
My Location
West Yorkshire
Can someone check the multistream package on 11617V and see if they can receive it? My signal is around 6.8-7.0dB which it has been since it started, which was fine for FEC 2/3 8PSK, but i'm guessing it's changed FEC as I can't get a lock on it now. Guessing it's now 3/4 or 5/6