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21.5E (Eutelsat 21B)

Discussion in 'Fringe Reception Reports' started by Piltdownpaul, Dec 16, 2012.

  1. MCelliotG

    MCelliotG Regular Member

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    Fabulous, is that with the 1.80? BTW, today I finally managed to tune my dish arc to perfection after a very long time. I'm so excited to finally bring all the potential my 1.30 can give me. So I will compare how 10919 fares now, stay tuned! lol
     
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  2. Feedsat_DXer

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    yes, 1.80m
     
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  3. Lexzie

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    Still nothing here. Other signals f.e. 11394 H 2690 8.5 dB, 11488 V 2150 8.9 dB, 11491 V 2210 11 dB, 11497 V 2170 7.5 dB, 11519 H 3220 10.6 dB.
    Even with Satlink meter tested directly on the LNB: 11491 V 11dB, 10919 H: zero.

    Is it for certain that 10919 H is on Wide Beam? It should be if this frequency sheet is right.

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  4. hvdh

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    Your dish (120 cm I suppose) is performing bad, or not pointing well, the dB values are too low!
    Here I get, of the others you listed (in your order): 13.2, 13.2, 15.2. 11.5 and 15.2 dB.
    10919 H is between 8 and 8.5 dB (weather turbulence).
    10919H.png
     
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  5. blademedia

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    I lock 10919 ok with a 1.2, try nudging the dish slightly towards 23.5E
     
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  6. Kypros_Pambou

    Kypros_Pambou Regular Member

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    My reception with 2.1m. Due to my last receptions (last December & January ) the signal level is almost the same.
    21.6E - 10918 Hor ( With 2.1m ).jpg
     
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  7. Lexzie

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    Well my dish is alligned perfectly, the only option I can think of is that houses are blocking the view partially. The same problem occurs with 23.5E and after that no reception whatsoever (with that dish).
    But because 21.5E was not my last satellite (23.5E is), I thought I have full view on 21.5E, 23.5E must be peeping through the two dormers. Photos are taken with the dish aimed at 21.5E.
    IMG_20170410_2004re.jpg IMG_20170410_200508.jpg
    Only I did not expect that a MCPC signal with SR 33710 would be more difficult to receive than the SCPC signals.
     
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  8. Chris1979

    Chris1979 Non Ducor, duco.

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    If you have an iPhone look for an app called sat scope.

    You can use your camera in the phone to show you where the satellite is in relation to your "view"
     
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  9. william-1

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    10918 H
    DVB-S2/8PSK
    MPEG-4 33710 3/5 (No Signal here & there never has been in with my set up)

    My 100cm Gibertini is set up very precisely for weak feed signals so if this transponder was on the wide beam it would beam in here with a massive signal but it does not so I have concluded that just maybe the signal is on the Eutelsat 21B Ku-band Western beam
    This beam requires a 120cm dish in the East of England beam below:-
    E21B_Ku-band_Western_Downlink_Coverage.jpg

    Or maybe this signal is on the wide beam at reduced signal strength ?
     
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  10. hvdh

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    MCelliotG in Thessaloniki and Kypros_Pambou in Cyprus have a good signal and are well outside the Western beam.
    It's a Wide beam signal but quite weak indeed. With 8.5 dB, I have only 3 dB margin with the 8PSK 3/5 used.
    With your 100 cm (instead of 120 cm) there is considerably more "push-away" effect by nearby 19.2°E.
    Upgrade to 120 cm and you'll get this one.
    Is 10919 H interesting anyway? Since all is encrypted in Viaccess.
     
  11. pontiend

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    I do not know if I am on the right transponder here.
    I have 58% Quality on 10919H 33710.Nothing with crazyscan..
    TBS6983 100cm Dish.
    21.6e.jpg
     
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  12. Lexzie

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    I Don't have a iPhone but I know apps like that and they are never accurate enough.
    Again more reasons to move the dish to the roof (besides reception beyond 28.2E and 30W).
     
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    pontiend senile member

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    Sorry I scanned the wrong transponder in crazyscan.I am definitely cracking up or I have had a can too many.Hopefully a can too many.:)
    TBS6983 100cm Dish.
    21.6e sc.jpg
     
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  14. MCelliotG

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    Here's 10919H on my 1.30, I'm pretty happy with it. It's certainly wide beam, this satellite is full of variations in signals faring from 8 to 17db for the same beam.
    [​IMG]

    Note that I receive absolutely nothing from both the West and East beams, Greece is in null for both, but I'm sure an 1.80 can pull them all.
     
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  15. Kypros_Pambou

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    Increase of my signal level during morning hours @ 12.3dB 21.6E - 10918 Hor ( With 2.1m & cloudy weather ) morning hours.jpg
     
  16. SatSearcher

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    I get this with around 5.5-6.0 dB here in west yorkshire on my 1m. I scan this position regularly, and signal levels on most transponders can vary wildly from day to day. Also noticed that some transponders benefit from nudging the dish slightly east, whereas others benefit from nudging slightly west! Very odd!
     
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    I notice the same east west difference. It may be to do with interference from the satellites at either side.
     
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    Can someone check the multistream package on 11617V and see if they can receive it? My signal is around 6.8-7.0dB which it has been since it started, which was fine for FEC 2/3 8PSK, but i'm guessing it's changed FEC as I can't get a lock on it now. Guessing it's now 3/4 or 5/6
     
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    Thanks. What FEC is it using?
     
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