40.5W SES6 & NSS806

[Manikm909]

hmm this is interesting, so in april, using RIMANTS ARMS fixed CBAND LNB in focus position, i reported getting VE PLUS at 13db -post #28

Advice Needed - 40.5W c-band ?.

3710 L - 98% on a 2.2 Elite PF - 3980 L 40% 60% fluctuating . - North Nottinghamshire. Sorry can't give a dB reading at the moment with this rx.

www.satellites.co.uk

currently using original CM arms, and cband lnb above ku lnb and raising dish using incline jack, im only getting 10.5db - explains why im not pulling in ESPN
there must be something else going on here - might need to put rimas arms back on.
jesus, they've been on and off a few times now.

 

[moonbase]

thanks @John - my problem due to 5G interference is i have to use that Titanium 5G filtering LNB or i cant get jack !
not solid anyway. i guess i could use other non filtering to see if i can even pull in ESPN with breakup.

Just a thought, you could try one of the external 5G filters bolted onto a cheap Chinese feed, both available from Ali Express. The feed would clamp directly into your existing feed clamp
Also, you would need at least one WR229 flange LNB, but again, cheap on Ali Express.

If you wanted to try out a cheap Chinese feed with a WR229 flange LNB I have spares over here you can borrow.
I have no spare external 5G filter though, I am possibly ordering some from Ali Express this week.

giving up for now....

Shock, horror and sickening feeling at seeing those words from a DX Man

 

[John]

Just a thought, you could try one of the external 5G filters bolted onto a cheap Chinese feed, both available from Ali Express. The feed would clamp directly into your existing feed clamp
Also, you would need at least one WR229 flange LNB, but again, cheap on Ali Express.

If you wanted to try out a cheap Chinese feed with a WR229 flange LNB I have spares over here you can borrow.
I have no spare external 5G filter though, I am possibly ordering some from Ali Express this week.







Shock, horror and sickening feeling at seeing those words from a DX Man

Not a bad idea 'tis that - the External 5G one i bought was the cheapest (still £110 or so though) and it does quite a good job of reducing the 5G crud , a loaned lnb will be required as well - as a matter of interest @Manikm909 how far away would you estimate your offending 5G cell tower/s are away from you ? and is your dish pointing towards an offending tower when looking at 40.5W ?. A net search for current active 5G cell towers for your area will be helpful.

 

[moonbase]

Not a bad idea 'tis that - the External 5G one i bought was the cheapest (still £110 or so though) and it does quite a good job of reducing the 5G crud , a loaned lnb will be required as well - as a matter of interest @Manikm909 how far away would you estimate your offending 5G cell tower/s are away from you ? and is your dish pointing towards an offending tower when looking at 40.5W ?. A net search for current active 5G cell towers for your area will be helpful.

@John

The external 5G filters look to be around the same price, about £87 plus delivery of £12, I think this is for the 150mm long model?
There are longer (170mm) and shorter models (120mm?) available for the 5G filter, presumably the longer/shorter tube offers different levels of 5G filtering?

No saving on buying a pair of the filters, the shipping only starts to discount at three units and upwards from this particular store on Ali Express.

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[scopus]

hmm this is interesting, so in april, using RIMANTS ARMS fixed CBAND LNB in focus position, i reported getting VE PLUS at 13db -post #28

Advice Needed - 40.5W c-band ?.

3710 L - 98% on a 2.2 Elite PF - 3980 L 40% 60% fluctuating . - North Nottinghamshire. Sorry can't give a dB reading at the moment with this rx.

www.satellites.co.uk

currently using original CM arms, and cband lnb above ku lnb and raising dish using incline jack, im only getting 10.5db - explains why im not pulling in ESPN
there must be something else going on here - might need to put rimas arms back on.
jesus, they've been on and off a few times now.

A thread on here somewhere about the CM arms.. Not sure if they aim the LNB to high or low? Rimnants put up some measurements etc..

 

[John]

@John

The external 5G filters look to be around the same price, about £87 plus delivery of £12, I think this is for the 150mm long model?
There are longer (170mm) and shorter models (120mm?) available for the 5G filter, presumably the longer/shorter tube offers different levels of 5G filtering?

No saving on buying a pair of the filters, the shipping only starts to discount at three units and upwards from this particular store on Ali Express.

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This is who i got mine from - £83.56 + £12 shipping and then when you press the 'buy' button it puts a VAT charge on as well . So far there hasn't been any customs charges.
** As you say, there are longer versions but they seemed to get even more bulkier and heavy.
Btw - i never got a sticker on mine! Gutted.

 

[Manikm909]

Not a bad idea 'tis that - the External 5G one i bought was the cheapest (still £110 or so though) and it does quite a good job of reducing the 5G crud , a loaned lnb will be required as well - as a matter of interest @Manikm909 how far away would you estimate your offending 5G cell tower/s are away from you ? and is your dish pointing towards an offending tower when looking at 40.5W ?. A net search for current active 5G cell towers for your area will be helpful.

Hey guys. Its about 1/4 of a mile. And yes it's pretty much bang on in line

no 90 degrees to it

Offender here (presume its 5G / 4G ...?)

 

[Manikm909]

does it make sense that i cant get
3723 R and 3763 R (AMC Brazil etc) using the following LNB based on RF input of 3800-4200? -seems logical and obvious perhaps...

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is there not a 5G filtering LNB that would be able to get these?

 

[John]

does it make sense that i cant get
3723 R and 3763 R (AMC Brazil etc) using the following LNB based on RF input of 3800-4200? -seems logical and obvious perhaps...

Amazon.com: Titanium Satellite C-Band LNBF C138-5g Interference Filter 3800-4200MHz Band Pass with Single Output : Electronics

Buy Titanium Satellite C-Band LNBF C138-5g Interference Filter 3800-4200MHz Band Pass with Single Output: Two-Way Radios - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases

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is there not a 5G filtering LNB that would be able to get these?

Not sure how steep the cut-off points are on a 5G 3.8-4.2 TiT either side of the pass frequency range but i think you might have answered your own question - your wanted frequencies 3723 / 3763 are most likely being attenuated enough by the internal filter coupled with the ability of the 1.8mtr CM to gather a strong enough signal in the first place
A quick web scan for a 3.7-4.2

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[moonbase]

does it make sense that i cant get
3723 R and 3763 R (AMC Brazil etc) using the following LNB based on RF input of 3800-4200? -seems logical and obvious perhaps...

Amazon.com: Titanium Satellite C-Band LNBF C138-5g Interference Filter 3800-4200MHz Band Pass with Single Output : Electronics

Buy Titanium Satellite C-Band LNBF C138-5g Interference Filter 3800-4200MHz Band Pass with Single Output: Two-Way Radios - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases

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is there not a 5G filtering LNB that would be able to get these?

The Titanium C138 and C238 models of LNBF are supposed to have a sharp cut off point at 3800 MHz.
They are aimed primarily at the USA market where there is less use below 3800 MHz than from the satellites we have visible.

There are other makes of twin probe LNBF that have the 5G filter inbuilt that cover the range of 3700 MHz to 4200 MHz but you would probably need to import them from Australia (eBay) or China (Ali Express).
The SatKing model seems to get some good reviews but it is from Australia, I could not find that specific brand on Ali Express when I checked.

Other than that you would need an external 5G filter similar to the rectangular tube pictured above by John.
I suppose you could try an older C1-PLL or C2-PLL LNB from Titanium.
They do not have the 5G filter built in but they do have a WiFi filter built into them and they cover 3700 MHz to 4200 MHz range.


Update: - John has linked you to an alternative LNBF with 5G filter in his post just before mine.

 

[moonbase]

.... coupled with the ability of the 1.8mtr CM to gather a strong enough signal in the first place....

@John

He needs to "go large" and get a nice 2.4m dish.

 

[John]

@John

He needs to "go large" and get a nice 2.4m dish.

Don't we all dear lol.

 

[ozumo]

Offender here (presume its 5G / 4G ...?)

Looks more like a 3G/4G tower than 5G which tend to be more like this:

 

[amdade]

Im using an old style wideband Titanium C1W-PLL on the 2.4m, no 5G here only just about 3G/4G if you stand on one leg :-)

They are still available on amazon UK but price not as good as used to be

 

[Manikm909]

The Titanium C138 and C238 models of LNBF are supposed to have a sharp cut off point at 3800 MHz.
They are aimed primarily at the USA market where there is less use below 3800 MHz than from the satellites we have visible.

There are other makes of twin probe LNBF that have the 5G filter inbuilt that cover the range of 3700 MHz to 4200 MHz but you would probably need to import them from Australia (eBay) or China (Ali Express).
The SatKing model seems to get some good reviews but it is from Australia, I could not find that specific brand on Ali Express when I checked.

Other than that you would need an external 5G filter similar to the rectangular tube pictured above by John.
I suppose you could try an older C1-PLL or C2-PLL LNB from Titanium.
They do not have the 5G filter built in but they do have a WiFi filter built into them and they cover 3700 MHz to 4200 MHz range.


Update: - John has linked you to an alternative LNBF with 5G filter in his post just before mine.

Exactly what I ordered last night . Ordered 2 in fact. Should be with me in time for Christmas

 

[Manikm909]

Im using an old style wideband Titanium C1W-PLL on the 2.4m, no 5G here only just about 3G/4G if you stand on one leg :-)

They are still available on amazon UK but price not as good as used to be

That's what I have already and I get the interference. I have the tit 5g but don't get AMC due to the cut off (I presume)

 

[Manikm909]

A thread on here somewhere about the CM arms.. Not sure if they aim the LNB to high or low? Rimnants put up some measurements etc..

What dB are u pulling in on that VE plus channel ?

 

[scopus]

What dB are u pulling in on that VE plus channel ?

Not at home until the weekend, so can't check at the min..

 

[Manikm909]

Not at home until the weekend, so can't check at the min..

anyone else could do on a 1.8 \ 2m would be useful

 

[nelson_b]

anyone else could do on a 1.8 \ 2m would be useful

Morning .... On 2.4 c.m ......... i get 12.5 db on VE+ .......
to compare i get 11.3 db on ESPN ........