61W and How low is too low on the horizon?

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I was checking the potential site for my polar mounted 120cm dish.
Dishpointer-the-app claims that I technically can see 61W from a specific spot in the garden.
It would be just above the horizon, over some very distant trees.
Would that bee too much atmosphere to go through, or might I get anything from Echostar 12 CONUS beam?
Else there are better spots to mount dish...
 
According to Satbeams you would need a 6 m dish to receive the Conus Beam of Echostar 12.
Even if that is possible, besides that there are no transmissions on Echostar 12.

If you want to know if your elevation is to low, try Amazon 3, 61.0°W just 0.3° more elevation than Echostar 12.
Europa beam: 12522 H and 12642 H. Both DVB-S, SR: 28888, FEC: 3/4
The last one has one FTA service.
 
With that recommended 6 meter dish you could try for 61.5 West, using transponder 12414L (Left-hand circular polarization) with an SR of 20000 and a FEC of 7/8, it is an SD DVB-S transponder that has the "You have a dish at 61.5W" channel on it, (dish channel 9582) and that is an open to all receivers channel
 
With that recommended 6 meter dish you could try for 61.5 West, using transponder 12414L (Left-hand circular polarization) with an SR of 20000 and a FEC of 7/8, it is an SD DVB-S transponder that has the "You have a dish at 61.5W" channel on it, (dish channel 9582) and that is an open to all receivers channel
That channel is now on Echostar 16 and the Conus Beam of Echostar 16 does not reach Europe (except Iceland), even for 6m dishes.
 
Depends on how strong the signal is. I received 72.1e once upon a time on an 85cm dish. Elevation here is 0.8 degrees. People on south east coast of England received 75e with the same elevationvon an 80cm dish, so it's doable but signal strength/quality varies a lot from one second to the next. So you might need to wait a few minutes to see a signal. There's one fta channel on Amazon on 12642H ..and it's also a slightly stronger transponder of the two...so give that one a go.
 
That channel is now on Echostar 16 and the Conus Beam of Echostar 16 does not reach Europe (except Iceland), even for 6m dishes.
This must be a recent development. Only two weeks ago, Echostar 12 did carry this stuff (or least lyngsat said it did).
No matter, there is little hope that 61W comes booming in on a CM120 (even though I have means of getting a Dish-subscription).
So now, it would be for the novelty 8)
 
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