68.5 east - test setup

[nelson_b]

hi folks -
yesteday was the first chance i,v had for a while to play with dishes
and although i,v received 68.5 east ok from here before - i had to setup a dish high on the garage roof to clear surrounding farm buildings -- or use a long cable run (65 metre of 125 grade)to get a full clear view

so using a 90cm prime focus dish thats been sitting unused for a while now ,
i decided to see if i could get this sat through a gap between the buildings ? pic 2 shows my estimate of the sat position .
the elevation for 68.5 is only 2.4 degrees from here which is enough to clear some hills about six miles away -- this all went well i,m glad to say - and although the signal is reduced somewhat by receiving through the gap, i,m getting most european beam t.p,s without any issues, (around 80 t.v.channels) its a pity the content isn,t more intersting though - although there,s a music video channel thats ok and a decent radio station too --- so worth leaving setup for a few days .

i was interested to see if i could receive ok through the gap and how much signal i might lose ,
because i possibly would like to try for C band from this sat using the 1.8 Alcoa dish ---
has anyone in the uk on the forum managed any C band from this sat ?

cheers - nelson.b.

 

[RimaNTSS]

Not in UK, but anyway:
Just scanned 68,5*E in Ku band 68 services found. Signal is strong enough. Do not have ATM C-band LNB, but some time ago was able to receive only one frequency, do not remember signal level. Used 1,5m PFA.

 

[aceb]

Hi Nelson, not managed it here unfortunately. The 1.2 is the only dish that can see this bird and that is partially obscured, I get a lower signal than Mike did on his 85cm. It's actually got C band on it atm but although I've checked I can't see anything on the spectrum that looks vaguely like a transponder.

 

[nelson_b]

thanks for the reply,s

@ rimaNTSS -- thanks for the info re C band -- your screenshot shows the k/u signal to be very good with you .

@ - aceb - it would be a lot of work to move the alcoa 1.8 just for a chance at 68.5 , -- and if i read lyngsat etc correctly - 1.8 is probably a minimum -
i used the F15 initially on the k/u/ 90 cm to test signal either side of the buildings - and with a clear view i got 7 - 8 db (the signal rises and falls)
through the gap i get 4 - 5 db -- thats probably too much loss --

regards --

 

[Kveys]

Sorry nelson_b, me neither from UK but are you guys getting 11008V Mongolian mux? It would be new sat-country and I still hope these will be fta sometimes (not yet). Other channels (ku) using different beam and are much stronger than this.

NHK was watchable also here with 150 Gibby. It´s not strongest C-band channel here but surely easiest because of good FEC (1/2).

 

[timo_w2s]

I managed to get the SABC channels some years ago in Finland on a temporary 1.8m just for fun but at my place in the UK there are just too many buildings and trees to get 68.5E.

 

[Kveys]

I saw SABC channels earlier when they were different sat and beam here in 68.5E with 125 Gibby. In fact only mornings Ok watchable and disappeared during the day.

 

[nelson_b]

Sorry nelson_b, me neither from UK but are you guys getting 11008V Mongolian mux? It would be new sat-country and I still hope these will be fta sometimes (not yet).

hi - last night i tried for 11008V Mongolian mux (russian beam) very weak signal
but tonight i have occasional lock - using F15 ---

 

[RimaNTSS]

are you guys getting 11008V Mongolian mux?

Yes, it is much weaker and nothing FTA
Background picture is from another channel.

 

[RimaNTSS]

Made a blindscan. There are 12 transponders. Two of them (12630 V and 11547 H) without any channels. And then there are couple of frequencies have weaker signals.

 

[hvdh]

The Mongolian mux DOES have something FTA! Check out Radio 5.
Never managed to hear the station name, there is a challenge here!
The soundquality is awfully noisy sometimes.

Something strange about it is, I need to restart the F16 to hear the sound.
And restart it again to get the sound back on other channels.

 

[nelson_b]

The Mongolian mux DOES have something FTA! Check out Radio 5.
Never managed to hear the station name, there is a challenge here!
The soundquality is awfully noisy sometimes.

Something strange about it is, I need to restart the F16 to hear the sound.
And restart it again to get the sound back on other channels.

will check this out - if the t.p will stay locked for long enough .

had to take the temporary dish setup down last night due to the strong winds here .
a pity , as the signal strengths, early evening last night, were very good here .
i have a 90 c.m. fibo dish in the garage -- think i may try with that next time i setup for this sat

regards --

 

[Captain Jack]

Not getting that Mongolian mux here - although every other TP on that satellite comes in loud and clear!

 

[RimaNTSS]

The Mongolian mux DOES have something FTA! Check out Radio 5.

I checked that radio early morning, really crappy sound with 96 kbit/s audio bitrate.

 

[aceb]

Not getting that Mongolian mux here - although every other TP on that satellite comes in loud and clear!

I'll give him along the road a poke on Skype, see if he can get it

 

[aceb]

Had a brief message from him about the MNG signal, Godsquad transponders are 100% Q on the 6925, Mongolia down around 40-60% and with terrible audio. Will wait for some clear skies tomorrow PM if the forecast is accurate and try again with more accurate scans.

 

[nelson_b]

Had a brief message from him about the MNG signal, Godsquad transponders are 100% Q on the 6925, Mongolia down around 40-60% and with terrible audio. Will wait for some clear skies tomorrow PM if the forecast is accurate and try again with more accurate scans.

hi -
had some time to spare yesterday - whilst waiting for the dishwasher repair man - l.o.l.
so set a dish up again - as the wind has eased a bit now --
used a 1 metre c.m. this time -- much improved signal,over that 90c.m. prime focus -
mongolian t.p. holding a better lock - still getting dropouts but the weather is poor here cloud and light snow flurries, and at 2.4 elevation its to be expected i guess .
will keep this setup over easter now i think -- and if i get the chance i will "borrow " the 1.2 dish-face as it will bolt staight on to this mount and setup C band on it - i dont expect to see any channels -
but i,m interested to see if there is any sign of t.p. activity, with a view to importing the 1.8 Alcoa down to this site for a test sometime in the future.
i,v always wanted to see something in C band from this sat

regards ---

 

[Captain Jack]

I was getting intermittent lock on that Mongolian to this morning on my Penta...drifting in and out. That's a very low dish! If you put the 1.2m there you'll have to turn it upside down.

 

[nelson_b]

I was getting intermittent lock on that Mongolian to this morning on my Penta...drifting in and out. That's a very low dish! If you put the 1.2m there you'll have to turn it upside down.

yes - CJ
i used to get drifting in and out alot with the 80 x 90cm i used a couple of years ago -- even in good clear weather on the strong signals .
your elevation to this sat should be quite a bit better than mine though - from your location .

you made me doubt about getting the 1.2 dish face on there -- so just been to have another measure up - l.o.l.
i should just get it though ( i hope ) - but it wouldn,t be the first time i,ve got it wrong

cheers ----

 

[Captain Jack]

All other Ku TPs on that satellite are fine - it's just the Mongolian one that's rather weak.

I remember you putting your 1.2m dish on the same mount for C band when you were testing 49E and you couldn't get the elevation low enough for satellites beyond 57E. That's why I mentioned it