Advice Needed : Most secure and wind resistant garden setup

[Analoguesat]

At least Turkmen Sport / Zero / Poker TV. All in HD although there is a long term fault on the Turkment Sport channel so it jumps every 10 seconds or so.

RTL on 19E has a few F1 races fta although its only fta in SD

Plenty of info about coverage across the forums

 

[Satspot]

Not strange really. They have explained their specific requirements and a motor was not the optimal solution for them. That's all.

If they could do more than one dish then one fixed and the other one on a motor would be fine.

They only want one dish though, so we presented the pros and cons of both setups.

Well hopefully with the information you’ve gleaned here you’ll be able to give them a clearer picture (pardon the pun). Incidentally do you install sat tv for a living. Sounds like you’ve done this before.

 

[kippysat]

Well hopefully with the information you’ve gleaned here you’ll be able to give them a clearer picture (pardon the pun). Incidentally do you install sat tv for a living. Sounds like you’ve done this before.

Cheers mate.

No, not for a living. Painting and Decorating is my trade and I am a partly trained "chippie". Only do the installs
when it is a part of a job we are doing for the builders we work with.

I got into by accident and being forced to when doing a job. Had to pick up stuff on the fly and then took a
liking to it and started talking to other more experienced installers and got help and tips here and there.

 

[Satspot]

Cheers mate.

No, not for a living. Painting and Decorating is my trade and I am a partly trained "chippie". Only do the installs
when it is a part of a job we are doing for the builders we work with.

I got into by accident and being forced to when doing a job. Had to pick up stuff on the fly and then took a
liking to it and started talking to other more experienced installers and got help and tips here and there.

It ain’t rocket science unless you’re into the specialised installs. That’s for the “big guns” here. In market terms you could say it’s a bolt on acquisition business for you Up to and including USALS motor installation on a 1.1m dish it’s fairly straightforward.

 

[manic01]

Not strange really. They have explained their specific requirements and a motor was not the optimal solution for them. That's all.

If they could do more than one dish then one fixed and the other one on a motor would be fine.

They only want one dish though, so we presented the pros and cons of both setups.

Remember what I said

 

[Terryl]

What I have done in the past is to use rigid electrical conduit, a 2 or 2-1/2 inch piece for the main mast, a bell reducer for a 1-1/2 piece for the top.

The rigid conduit is thick and the 2 or 2-1/2 inch will not bend, you need a hydraulic bender to do so.

I mount the big piece in about a yard of concrete around 2 feet down, also with a bolt stuck through the bottom to keep it from twisting, give the concrete about 3 days to setup before working with it, you can put some concrete down the conduit to stiffen it up even more.

This type of conduit has standard pipe threads so a plumbing iron pipe galvanized bell reducer will fit fine, the 1-1/2 inch piece can be cut down to what ever remaining height you need, the dish mount should fit this just fine.

Here is one I did a few years ago.

 

[gap30]

Dont do what I did i put a fairly high 3 inch pole into the ground and concreted it in - it was bang on level when I left it once the concrete had dried it had moved ever so slightly and has never been right since

I had the same problem as you it was in a open area with nothing to brace to - even if you have to do something temporary make sure the pole stays level as the concrete sets (although with you not going motorised its not the end of the world)

I am still waiting to setup my 2.4m CM but this time will be more vigilant when setting up the pole again like you I need to elevate the dish to clear the neighbours house/trees etc

 

[ozumo]

Recently we have been asked to install a dish up to a maximum size of 1.1m in a back garden.

Be aware that any dish face that has a dimension greater than 100cm technically requires planning permission.

 

[jeallen01]

Dont do what I did i put a fairly high 3 inch pole into the ground and concreted it in - it was bang on level when I left it once the concrete had dried it had moved ever so slightly and has never been right since

I had the same problem as you it was in a open area with nothing to brace to - even if you have to do something temporary make sure the pole stays level as the concrete sets (although with you not going motorised its not the end of the world)

I am still waiting to setup my 2.4m CM but this time will be more vigilant when setting up the pole again like you I need to elevate the dish to clear the neighbours house/trees etc

FWIW, "tall/long" poles with "heavy" dishes near/at the tops will almost certainly bend in strong winds if there's no bracing to an adjacent wall/"other support" - it will all depend on "how tall/long" and the size/material of the pole, "how large & heavy" the dish is , and how strong the winds are at the particular spot where it's installed!

I know I'm stating the obvious but I think we need more info - so a few photos of the intended installation location might well result in more specific advice on the possible "best" solutions!

 

[Satspot]

Be aware that any dish face that has a dimension greater than 100cm technically requires planning permission.

Interestingly how did they originally settle on that dimension when enacting it into law.

 

[jeallen01]

Be aware that any dish face that has a dimension greater than 100cm technically requires planning permission.

As my own installation (and those of quite a few other forum members!) "demonstrates", "it all depends" - the local council's (and, where relevant, the estate developer's/owner's contractual) attitudes to sat dishes, how "obvious" the dish(es) is/are and the neighbours' attitudes to sat dishes (some are even bothered by perfectly legally-sized and small ones, whereas others simply couldn't give a "sh1t"!)

 

[ozumo]

As my own installation (and those of quite a few other forum members!) "demonstrates", "it all depends" - the local council's (and, where relevant, the estate developer's/owner's contractual) attitudes to sat dishes, how "obvious" the dish(es) is/are and the neighbours' attitudes to sat dishes (some are even bothered by perfectly legally-sized and small ones, whereas others simply couldn't give a "sh1t"!)

Indeed but when installing a dish for a third party it's better to be safe than sorry, or to at least make the customer fully aware of the potential pitfalls, especially for a more involved installation like the OP intends

 

[jeallen01]

Indeed but when installing a dish for a third party it's better to be safe than sorry, or to at least make the customer fully aware of the potential pitfalls, especially for a more involved installation like the OP intends

Absolutely - and then, of course, one might also need to take into account the "views " of the "SWMBO" of the property!!

 

[kippysat]

Be aware that any dish face that has a dimension greater than 100cm technically requires planning permission.

OK

 

[kippysat]

Indeed but when installing a dish for a third party it's better to be safe than sorry, or to at least make the customer fully aware of the potential pitfalls, especially for a more involved installation like the OP intends

We are aware of the local regulations and have made the customer aware as well. They still want to go ahead.

 

[kippysat]

FWIW, "tall/long" poles with "heavy" dishes near/at the tops will almost certainly bend in strong winds if there's no bracing to an adjacent wall/"other support" - it will all depend on "how tall/long" and the size/material of the pole, "how large & heavy" the dish is , and how strong the winds are at the particular spot where it's installed!

I know I'm stating the obvious but I think we need more info - so a few photos of the intended installation location might well result in more specific advice on the possible "best" solutions!

Points all taken.

I think I will have to do a simple drawing or design with proposed measurements, etc and post it on here for everyone to review.