Anyone got the new SKY cards yet?

[trigger]

FYI

I have had my new card.
Firstly you get the message on screen "your new viewing card is in the post" - or similar.
I did not change mine straight away and waited.
1 Week later the message "please insert your new viewing card" appears on screen - roughly twice a day.
2 Weeks later the message was appearing every 40 seconds or so. I then changed the card.
Took the old card and put it in another box and the message on ALL channels was "this is the wrong card etc" and then "please insert your new viewing card"

So basically when the new card is sent out the existing card will not work in any other box. The old card becomes totally useless - not even for FTV channels - Ignore this and see my post further down - Thanks

 

[Topper]

Thanks for that clarification

 

[tomthebomb1968]

Umm asking is a quick way of getting a ban ;)

Yes I am aware of that, thats why I specified " the right places", and as he seems to have a C/S already running he must know where to ask.

Really all I was telling him was to use a search engine

 

[JTA]

and as he seems to have a C/S already running he must know where to ask.

that had me wondering too - if he allready has c/s why the hell does he need a new 'white' FTV card ?

 

[Huevos]

when the new card is sent out the existing card will not work in any other box.

Have you tried your new card in a third party box that used to work with the blue card (for example the Darkbox)?

 

[trigger]

Good point - will try that and report.
Gonna try the old card too

 

[Huevos]

It would be good to know, but we are not going to know the full story until all the cards have been issued and they can switch over to the new encryption system. Until then all the white cards will be using some backward compatibility mode.

 

[trigger]

Right then.

Old card still working in a 3rd party box with my package. This is now 3 weeks today the first message appeared about new card in the post.

New card works in box no problem

 

[useronline]

Will $ky be updating the FTV card to the new white card or will this remain as the old blue card?
Thanks

 

[PaulR]

If you bought an FTV card from $ly withing the last 12, or possibly 18, months then you should get another one free of charge. Any older, you'll have to shell out again.

 

[trigger]

Personally I dont think that these cards will be affected at all. Why bother swapping them. Leave the old encryption on the current channels it decodes and just upgrade the main package stuff.

But........ I have been wrong many, many,many times. LOL

 

[useronline]

Will the new SkyUK cards still operate at 5V or will this be changed to 3.3V like the SkyITA cards???
Thanks

 

[Analoguesat]

Right then.

Old card still working in a 3rd party box with my package. This is now 3 weeks today the first message appeared about new card in the post.

New card works in box no problem

If you can use a browser to access the cam info like you can with cccam on a DB you should be able to tell when the authorisations run out on it.

 

[trigger]

Nice one Analoguesat - I´ll try tomorrow but may need help as only just started playing with the dreambox. Had it ages but not played properly yet.

 

[A nonymous]

On a Dreambox you will need to use cccam as your emu and then download from the blue button a plugin called CCcam Info :-righton

Its available on most images

It doesn't matter if its version 1.0 or 1.1 as they more or less do the same thing anyway

:-beer

Nano

 

[trigger]

Wow I did it.
Some at 23-6-09, some the 24th and one the 27th.

Happy days - got multiroom 4 a month

 

[pappupappu31]

the sky uk card works even better in NEWCS/MGCAMD never had any probs

 

[roaaul]

Until then all the white cards will be using some backward compatibility mode.

who told you that? or is that opinion?
the new caid in the stream 0x963 runs simultaneously with the other 2 caids all use there own ecm & emm's they have nothing to do with each other at all, they have 3 nds data streams running at once totally individual to each other.
theres no chance nds will allow nds2 ecm's & emm's to be processed by the nds3 card thats why there's a different caid for the stream.
a new set of opcodes will be used from nds2 and as ppl can see the cam is using a check function to seal the top tiers from unauthorised box use on the newer cards ( this could be from a valid boxkey check through to a processor id check performed by the ird and xored to a ram location to be checked at will).
the dt08 sequence has not been increased as others have reported if anything its been decreased but saying that what's to stop them re mapping the dt08 sequence, thus changing the opcode for the final control words that are delivered?

R

 

[Huevos]

who told you that? or is that opinion?

The encryption hasn't switched yet, or has it? If it had the old cards wouldn't work any more, would they? Are the tests being carried out in this thread on the new cards going to produce the same results once the encryption is switched?

This thing about the multiple NDS stream can you explain that a bit more. I don't understand that as there is only 1 encrypted carrier. Are you saying that one carrier can be decoded by multiple methods?

 

[JTA]

Huevos, Sky is currently using both the old & the new encryption methods simultaniously. The "old" cards will be updated by the information send using the old caid code, the new card will not use these but are listening to a the new caid code '963'.
the old NDS2 sky cards will stop working when sky stops sending the old caid codes.