Astra 2F: European Beam Transfers Starting?

[Satellite Steve]

12012, V has gone to 2A.

How are you verifying this?

 

[iandoh]

The previous ones are def 1N, I could get all 2A and B beams previously, now getting nothing from the ones first mentioned in the thread.

 

[strs65]

Yes, but how can you tell it is not 2F?

 

[RimaNTSS]

I can not get those frequencies on 90cm antenna anymore, only 1,5m ( I think it is minimus and even vithout any marging for rain). 1,8m antenna would be probably enough. Yes, that is an issue for many small-size antenna users. Sorry iandoh, you will need at least 2 meters. :-shifty
12,070 GHz, pol. H, SR 27500, FEC 2/3, DVB-S/QPSK
12,090 GHz, pol. V, SR 29500, FEC 3/4, DVB-S2/QPSK
12,148 GHz, pol. H, SR 27500, FEC 2/3, DVB-S/QPSK
12,168 GHz, pol. V, SR 29500, FEC 3/4, DVB-S2/QPSK
12,226 GHz, pol. H, SR 29500, FEC 3/4, DVB-S2/QPSK
12,324 GHz, pol. V, SR 29500, FEC 3/4, DVB-S2/QPSK
12,188 GHz, pol. H, SR 29500, FEC 3/4, DVB-S2/QPSK
12,207 GHz, pol. V, SR 27500, FEC 2/3, DVB-S/QPSK
12,266 GHz, pol. H, SR 29500, FEC 3/4, DVB-S2/QPSK
12,363 GHz, pol. V, SR 29500, FEC 3/4, DVB-S2/QPSK

 

[iandoh]

Yes, but how can you tell it is not 2F?

Well I can't but I think rima just did. Rima would have the same problem I have however he is just on the outer rim of 1N's pan euro beam

 

[falk]

Well I can't but I think rima just did. Rima would have the same problem I have however he is just on the outer rim of 1N's pan euro beam

In your location the 2F PE-Beam looks exactly like the 1N PE1-Beam. So it could also be 2F PE.

 

[denis1501]

How are you verifying this?

12012, V is gone to the 2A North beam, I'm 100% sure.
At my location certain 2A north transponders are very difficult to lock with my 1.25m dish. These always come in at around 16.30hrs and disappear again later in the evening. This has happened today with 12012, V. This morning there was nothing, now signal has arrived and at the same level as the other 2A north 'problem' transponders.
1N is not a problem here, all transponders received without issue.
2A South beam has 95% signal quality 24 hrs a day.
It has to be on 2A North!

 

[RimaNTSS]

I am at very edge of recommended dish size 120cm. iandoh you can try to get them even with 180cm.

 

[iandoh]

I am at very edge of recommended dish size 120cm. iandoh you can try to get them even with 180cm.

Don't really need em. 28e really never bothered me, more just had it because I could.

 

[iandoh]

12012, V is gone to the 2A North beam, I'm 100% sure.
At my location certain 2A north transponders are very difficult to lock with my 1.25m dish. These always come in at around 16.30hrs and disappear again later in the evening. This has happened today with 12012, V. This morning there was nothing, now signal has arrived and at the same level as the other 2A north 'problem' transponders.
1N is not a problem here, all transponders received without issue.
2A South beam has 95% signal quality 24 hrs a day.
It has to be on 2A North!

But I still get 2A north with no problem what so ever, so how would I have lost the channels if they were there?

 

[tothbros]

regards to 12012V, denis1501 seems convincing...looking at the footprints of all the PE beams, reception in italy should all be strong with a 125 dish - except for 2A-2B northern

 

[tothbros]

so is this the case?

these frequencies moved to possibly 1N PE: 12.070GHz/H, 12.090GHz/V, 12.148GHz/H, 12.168GHz/V, 12.188GHz/H, 12.207GHz/V, 12.226GHz/H, 12.266GHz/H,12.324GHz/V, 12.363GHz/V

12012V moved to 2A north

what about these?: 12110H, 12246V, 12304H

 

[C0re]

regards to 12012V, denis1501 seems convincing...looking at the footprints of all the PE beams, reception in italy should all be strong with a 125 dish - except for 2A-2B northern

His report comes from Rome and that region is just on the edge of the 2A North beam. On the other hand the 2B North beam covers Rome completely. So do the 2F Europe Beam and both European beams of the 1N. Also see: _www.satbeams.com/footprints?position=28

 

[tothbros]

His report comes from Rome and that region is just on the edge of the 2A North beam. On the other hand the 2B North beam covers Rome completely. So do the 2F Europe Beam and both European beams of the 1N. Also see: _www.satbeams.com/footprints?position=28

thats why the assumption that 12012V must be on 2A north...because in every other case, he should be getting it strong

 

[iandoh]

so is this the case?

these frequencies moved to possibly 1N PE: 12.070GHz/H, 12.090GHz/V, 12.148GHz/H, 12.168GHz/V, 12.188GHz/H, 12.207GHz/V, 12.226GHz/H, 12.266GHz/H,12.324GHz/V, 12.363GHz/V

12012V moved to 2A north

what about these?: 12110H, 12246V, 12304H

No lock on 12110, has to be 1N PE. Other two can't check for you.

 

[iandoh]

Here is my signal from 2A North: hxxp://i.imgur.com/DTrGzLt.png

Just to clarify, I'm not saying it's not the 2F PE beam, just that it would be unlikely with the results Rima posted.

 

[falk]

I am at very edge of recommended dish size 120cm. iandoh you can try to get them even with 180cm.

If I compare the footprints of 2F Europe and 1N PE1 in your location, I cannot see the reason, why the transponders shouldn`t be moved to 2F.

 

[iandoh]

If I compare the footprints of 2F Europe and 1N PE1 in your location, I cannot see the reason, why the transponders shouldn`t be moved to 2F.

My belief is it wouldn't show any signs of life where I am and would be a lot lot more weaker for Rima

 

[tothbros]

If I compare the footprints of 2F Europe and 1N PE1 in your location, I cannot see the reason, why the transponders shouldn`t be moved to 2F.

i think the more telling sign is that ppl in the canaries lost reception of those channels

 

[Lazarus]

Quite. Then there is the Canaries conundrum: "Who nicked my lobe?"




Edit: Very much SNAP!