Astra 2F: Scandinavia & Baltics Discussion

Lazarus

Lazarus

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80cm Motorised.
Several small Dishes.
Much else.
My Location
North York Moors
Holding Thread for Region specific debate
 
Lazarus

Lazarus

Tout Rond Bon Oeuf
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My Satellite Setup
80cm Motorised.
Several small Dishes.
Much else.
My Location
North York Moors
As promised, now Open for use.

No Transition from 1N to 2F yet, but clearly it's imminent.

Speculation to remain in the existing Hot Thread, please.

Otherwise - carry on!
 
peeter3000

peeter3000

Member
Messages
173
My Satellite Setup
125x140cm Mabo
3m AerialAS30,
80cm Triax
TBS5922
CrazyScan 1.0.1.94.
(Lenovo T420)
My Location
Estonia(EU)
11896 V S0 Q0 (before S100 Q35- picture ok)
Tallinn (72x79cm triax)
 
t.m

t.m

Regular Member
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88
Location
Stockholm
My Satellite Setup
1.2 metre dish
Amstrad dx90 sky+ h.d box
My Location
stockholm
No change here in Stockholm yet ! Everything ( Inc H.D Working as usual
 
peeter3000

peeter3000

Member
Messages
173
My Satellite Setup
125x140cm Mabo
3m AerialAS30,
80cm Triax
TBS5922
CrazyScan 1.0.1.94.
(Lenovo T420)
My Location
Estonia(EU)
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iandoh

Regular Member
Messages
266
Location
Pärnu. Estonia
My Satellite Setup
1.6m Triax dish, 70cm Mutlibracket (1w, 4.8e, 9e, 13e, 19e, 23.5e) 70cm @ 22w and 1.5m motorised 27.5w-95e
My Location
Pärnu. Estonia
now 11896 V S100 Q20 (so it was local problem-sorry!)
Is that with the 3 metre?

EDIT: just saw the dish size under. That would be the MTV TP which is always pretty weak here on an 80cm mutlibracket dish. Locks fine though.
 
Analoguesat

Analoguesat

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Location
Scottish Borders
My Satellite Setup
TM 5402HD
Skybox F3
Sky+ UK.
My Location
Scottish Borders
So lads, whats happening with 2F reception up in the land of the midnight frostbite?? :D
 
bema

bema

Member
Messages
81
Location
Kungsbacka
My Satellite Setup
TV server: Linux Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
TvHeadend 4.1-1355
TBS6904 (Quad DVB-S/S2)
Dish: TD110, Inverto black ultra quattro
TBS6205 (Quad DVB-T/T2)
Ant: UHF 100 El Triax, dir N
Client: Kodi v14.2 etc
My Location
Sweden
Hello

All new 2F transponders are okay here (30 km) south of Gothenburg with my 1.1m dish. The "software" I'm using don't report any SNR or reception quality so I don't know the signal strength. Will try to look on my spectrum analyzer later this evening...

Temp: -7.5 degC (almost clear sky...)
 
skomedal

skomedal

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This and that
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thule
Afraid they will tweak the spot beam even further if we our reception reports :-shh
 
easydigital

easydigital

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Messages
17
Location
Sweden
My Satellite Setup
Motorised 120cm dish,
VU+® Solo² Full HD 1080p Twin Linux PVR
VU+ UNO HD Receivers
Titanium Twin LNB TT 0.1dB
Inverto Black Ultra 0.2dB
My Location
Stockholm
RimaNTSS

RimaNTSS

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4,850
My Satellite Setup
Some SAT-related hardware.
My Location
N-E from Riga
I have nothing here. Of course, it is UK beam and I do not have at least 3m antenna, only 1,5m.
 
Analoguesat

Analoguesat

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Scottish Borders
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TM 5402HD
Skybox F3
Sky+ UK.
My Location
Scottish Borders
Map updated to here.
 
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Hiach

Member
Messages
23
My Satellite Setup
Humax Foxsat HD, Fixed 0.7x0.8m (28.2ºE), Fixed TD54 (19.2ºE), Inverto Black Ultra LNBs.
My Location
60.4ºN, 5.3ºE
I have finally got an idea of how bad the SNR goes on a 0.7x0.8m dish in Bergen.
(Inverto Ultra Black LNB + Humax Foxsat HD)
10964H goes down to 40% quality in the evening (clear sky).
-> The picture is pixelating, but not completely lost.

The threshold for DVB-S QPSK 22000 5/6 is close to 6.5dB.
I think worst case SNR is close to 6dB (40%)
- best case SNR might be close to 10dB (80%).

Reception at 18:30 CET:
10964H: 80% / 60%
10994H: 85% / 60%
11023H: 85% / 60%
11053H: 85% / 70%
11127V: 85% / 70%

The best SNR is + 20% to the values at 18:30.
But that doesn't help the prime time figures...

Reception at 20:45 CET:
10964H: 80% / 40%
10994H: 80% / 40%
11023H: 0% / 0%
11053H: 80% / 50%
11127V: 80% / 60%
 
timo_w2s

timo_w2s

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Maidenhead, UK & Helsinki, Finland
Just read on a Finnish forum of a user who has got the reception of 2F on a good quality 2.4m Aerial Oy dish in Lappeenranta, near the border with Russia. Could be a sidelobe?

They managed to get all 5 transponders but some breakup. Strongest seem to be 11052H and 11126V. 11024H is one of the weakest and seems to disappear during the day.

Another report from near Paimio, in the South West near Turku reported reception on a Teleste 3m dish for all five transponders in the evening.
 
Analoguesat

Analoguesat

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TM 5402HD
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Sky+ UK.
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Scottish Borders
timo_w2s said:
Just read on a Finnish forum of a user who has got the reception of 2F on a good quality 2.4m Aerial Oy dish in Lappeenranta, near the border with Russia. Could be a sidelobe?
Very interesting - taking the nw-se axis as the datum thats just about 180 degrees opposite the Canaries!

Both plotted on the map :)
 
timo_w2s

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Analoguesat said:
Very interesting - taking the nw-se axis as the datum thats just about 180 degrees opposite the Canaries!
Oh yes... Mmm. Will have a look at my parents setup in the next couple of weeks but not really expecting anything on a 1.8m in Helsinki. Shame I don't have a meter as I suspect a receiver won't register anything of much interest...
 
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Hiach

Member
Messages
23
My Satellite Setup
Humax Foxsat HD, Fixed 0.7x0.8m (28.2ºE), Fixed TD54 (19.2ºE), Inverto Black Ultra LNBs.
My Location
60.4ºN, 5.3ºE
Hiach said:
I have finally got an idea of how bad the SNR goes on a 0.7x0.8m dish in Bergen.
(Inverto Ultra Black LNB + Humax Foxsat HD)
10964H goes down to 40% quality in the evening (clear sky).
-> The picture is pixelating, but not completely lost.

Reception at 20:45 CET:
10964H: 80% / 40%
10994H: 80% / 40%
11023H: 0% / 0%
11053H: 80% / 50%
11127V: 80% / 60%
Update today - Astra 2F has changed orbit and improved reception in Bergen.
Reception at 20:45 CET:
10964H: 80% / 50%
10994H: 80% / 50%
11023H: 85% / 50%
11053H: 80% / 60%
11127V: 85% / 60%
Picture on Channel five is now without breakup.
 
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SteveWhit

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7
My Satellite Setup
1.8m standard dish, twin LNB. SKY HD
My Location
Helsinki, Finland
timo_w2s said:
Oh yes... Mmm. Will have a look at my parents setup in the next couple of weeks but not really expecting anything on a 1.8m in Helsinki. Shame I don't have a meter as I suspect a receiver won't register anything of much interest...
That's a shame. Reckon there is no chance if me getting permission for a 4m dish. Certainly not from the neighbors.
However a work around is sky go. Downside is losing the ability to record everything.
 
timo_w2s

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SteveWhit said:
That's a shame. Reckon there is no chance if me getting permission for a 4m dish. Certainly not from the neighbors.
However a work around is sky go. Downside is losing the ability to record everything.
Even the so called new 2F Pan-European beam could be difficult for those of us with smaller dishes in Finland soon. I find I'm using my UK registered iPad and a VPN account a lot more these days for UK TV viewing - at least we have decent internet speeds in most of Finland.
 
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