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I am searching for a very good tuner sensitive receiver being satellite box or pc card
which one got better sensitivity - box tuners or pc cards
what do you think from
TechniSat SkyStar 2 HD Express PCI card or TBS6925
Vu solo2 or Gigablue or Dr HD box
 

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I have never used a pc card but my technomate 5302 has the most sensitive tuner in a receiver that I have tested.
 

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pc-cards:
TBS6925--TBS5925-- the best/champion/king

satellite box:
--goden media unibox2 hd
--golden media 9080hd
( i like these boxes because have good sensitive tuner sat-terrestrial and the most important thing is
" if even missing 1-2dB those receivers can lock/play audio-video signal without touching a minimum guaranteed level/signal ")
--eycos 95.15 hd
--clarke-tech 4100 plus hd
--dr.hd f15
all three boxes have good sensitive tuner
all three boxes can lock/play audio-video signal only if it receive the minimum guaranteed level/signal (no gain no pain)

others old boxes and pc-cards with sensitive tuner:
vantage x-201 sci
vantage x-211 cxciu
vantage x-221 tsci
openbox x-810
nokia mediamaster 9800
strong 4500
sky-star 1 v1.3
skystar 2 v2.3

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I am searching for a very good tuner sensitive receiver being satellite box or pc card
which one got better sensitivity - box tuners or pc cards
what do you think from
TechniSat SkyStar 2 HD Express PCI card or TBS6925
Vu solo2 or Gigablue or Dr HD box

What are you trying to watch? And do you have an appropriately sized dish for it?
 

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there are two features I search for -1 - high sensitivity tuner 2 - spectrum analyser
does Technisat SkyStar 2 HD got at least one of the last mentioned, how does compare to TBS6925 or TBS5925
has anyone compared tuner capabilities of enigma 2 boxes DM800se/500HD, Vu solo2 and gigablue with TM5402 or Dr HD boxes
 

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I can only give you my experience, I have just changed from an openbox S16 which I thought was the best, until I got a Technomate TM5402 HD M2 CI super plus. Sadly it lacks a spectrum analizer but it holds a steady picture on the Astra 2f channels I get here when the openbox is stuttering and pixelating. The sensitivity spec on both boxes is the same so maybe the software on the technomate is doing the work. The picture quality is also superior. I also have an openbox X5 but it isn't as sensitive as the S 16 although again the tuner sensitivity spec is the same.
 

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there are two features I search for -1 - high sensitivity tuner 2 - spectrum analyser
does Technisat SkyStar 2 HD got at least one of the last mentioned, how does compare to TBS6925 or TBS5925
I have all three, although my TBS6925 is out of service (awaiting repair).
The Skystar 2 HD is quite as sensitive as the TBS tuners - I find it's also faster blindscanning. Cheaper too. All can use Crazyscan's spectrum analyser program.
 

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I have all three, although my TBS6925 is out of service (awaiting repair).
The Skystar 2 HD is quite as sensitive as the TBS tuners - I find it's also faster blindscanning. Cheaper too. All can use Crazyscan's spectrum analyser program.

thank you for reply
If you have to rate them from experience what would you recommend - Is It worth to go for much expensive 6925 Instead of SkyStar2 eXpress HD
how does tuner of your DM8000 compare to three cards - Is It far behind
I ask that because I have seen prof spectrum analizers which have a much better tuner sensitivity than consumer receiver products
 

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I thought about getting 6925 but £50 trumps £150... And I don't think I am missing anything by having a SS2 HD card.
 

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It Is confusing that SkyStar 2 eXpress HD Is a relatively old and there Is no more software updates since 2011 at official site
CJ do you have some shot with SkyStar 2 express showing a spectrum In a band from 10.7 to 11 - I am Interested If can go down -60 dBm
 

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Whilst some receiver brands will have a more sensitive tuner than the competition (receivers that are mass produced for broadcasters will be at the other end of the spectrum) there are two other features that make all the difference.

Many designs will be insensitive at low symbol rates, which can be down to the internal tuner filtering, or an incompatible demodulator circuit and/or software.

Additionally the DVB-S2 specification and compatibility of a receiver may not be the best option is one is looking more at non HD channels, for this reason some of the older receivers still outperform on the majority of links.

The usual specifications on the box are 1-45 MBaud, but not all will retain reasonable selectivity at the extremes. The only real way to check is to have comparison receivers running off the same LNB port, via a quality two way splitter, reducing the signal input (easiest is to nudge the dish away from the satellite) until one of them starts losing the plot.

A channel that transmits symbol rates under 1MBaud is always one of the better ways to determine if the receiver is one to hang onto.
 

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I am disappointed with TBS5925 tuner, my DM8000 has a more sensitive tuner for exactly 0.5 dB S/N. It's not different measurements, at the same frequency TBS5925 no lock and DM8000 has a signal without freezing
 

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I am disappointed with TBS5925 tuner, my DM8000 has a more sensitive tuner for exactly 0.5 dB S/N. It's not different measurements, at the same frequency TBS5925 no lock and DM8000 has a signal without freezing
I think my tbs5922 is same..
 

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I think it is not correct to compare decibels different tuners showing on screens. Most proper would be to find very weak signal and then observe whether picture is not breaking up. When I tried to compare sensitivity of DM8k and GB_Quad, I observed different decibels from one feed but picture break-up level was same. So, I was not notice any sensitivity's difference. Or, if there was some difference, it was in margins of measurements. Tuner's difference is one of the last importance in Tuner-connectors- cable-LNB-antenna chain. Most important is antenna's size, LNB's position in proper focus, antenna's tuning, LNB's skew. IMHO

Add: Almost forgot- using of appropriate LNB is also very important issue.
 
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get a larger dish as better lnb,s and sensitive tuners will only give you minute gains... if you cant get a larger dish then a DR-HD F15/TM5402HD inverto IBU lnbf seems to be the combo of choice for most people but as you are using a PFA you may need to do a c120 conversion.. aslso as @rima says antenna,s tuning/frequency stability are also important
 
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