DiSEqC 1.1 16x1 Gecen GD-1601A

Vipersan

Vipersan

Emmett Browns Ghost
Staff member
Messages
10,914
My Satellite Setup
IP9000HD +
TD110 Dish and TD88 Dish in Tandem
66°East to 60°West.
AZbox PrmHD + OpnbxS9HD + Skybox + DrHD F15
2x VboxII AZ-EL
2 m+ Alcoa PF + BSC421 C-Band lnbf...
+SS2/TwHnS2-3200 pci/TBS6925 pci
1.5 Fortec Star -Gbox - HtoH Ku/Ka/C
My Location
UK
..so has anyone tried one of these ??
DiSEqC 1.1 16x1 Gecen GD-1601A

again ..says programmable ...
but I assume comes ready set up for 1.1 use ..
Resellers are mostly Russian and Ukrainian ...but I sourced one on Ali-Express for about 40 quid including postage ..
Im soooo tempted..
but would like a little feedback from someone who's used one first.
;)

http://www.agsat.com.ua/product/diseqc-11-16x1-gecen-gd-1601a/
 
Vipersan

Vipersan

Emmett Browns Ghost
Staff member
Messages
10,914
My Satellite Setup
IP9000HD +
TD110 Dish and TD88 Dish in Tandem
66°East to 60°West.
AZbox PrmHD + OpnbxS9HD + Skybox + DrHD F15
2x VboxII AZ-EL
2 m+ Alcoa PF + BSC421 C-Band lnbf...
+SS2/TwHnS2-3200 pci/TBS6925 pci
1.5 Fortec Star -Gbox - HtoH Ku/Ka/C
My Location
UK
..what little info/spec I can find in english...

  • Excellent quality tin-plate housing and exquisite plastic case shell attached, making installation convenient
  • Excellent quality component, professional circuit design and low loss
  • Excellent quality chip, professional program design and compatible with more types of satellite receiver
  • 30dB isolation and minimize the mutual interference
  • Short-circuit protection design ensures more secure usage
  • Utilize one coaxial cable to transmit control and satellite signal simultaneously
  • Support DiSEqC “standby” command



Specification

Frequency Range

950-2150MHz)

Normal Working Voltage

12-20(V)

Insertion Loss

3 db)

DC Power Consumption

10(mA)

Isolation

30 db

DC Max Power Passing

500(mA)

Return Loss

8 db

Impedance(all ports)

75(Ω)
 
Vipersan

Vipersan

Emmett Browns Ghost
Staff member
Messages
10,914
My Satellite Setup
IP9000HD +
TD110 Dish and TD88 Dish in Tandem
66°East to 60°West.
AZbox PrmHD + OpnbxS9HD + Skybox + DrHD F15
2x VboxII AZ-EL
2 m+ Alcoa PF + BSC421 C-Band lnbf...
+SS2/TwHnS2-3200 pci/TBS6925 pci
1.5 Fortec Star -Gbox - HtoH Ku/Ka/C
My Location
UK
I'm thinking using one of these would greatly reduce the cumulative losses in my complex switch system ...whilst retaining access to 16 lnb inputs ..of which I use around 10 ..
and will accept a half amp load ..
sounds too good to be true ..
whats the catch I wonder..
maybe there isn't one.
lol
 
Vipersan

Vipersan

Emmett Browns Ghost
Staff member
Messages
10,914
My Satellite Setup
IP9000HD +
TD110 Dish and TD88 Dish in Tandem
66°East to 60°West.
AZbox PrmHD + OpnbxS9HD + Skybox + DrHD F15
2x VboxII AZ-EL
2 m+ Alcoa PF + BSC421 C-Band lnbf...
+SS2/TwHnS2-3200 pci/TBS6925 pci
1.5 Fortec Star -Gbox - HtoH Ku/Ka/C
My Location
UK
Ok ...took a chance and ordered one of these multiswitches ..
prolly about 2 weeks delivery time ..and although still in China ..has been dispatched.
I'll report more when I get it .
favourably I hope.
;)
 
Vipersan

Vipersan

Emmett Browns Ghost
Staff member
Messages
10,914
My Satellite Setup
IP9000HD +
TD110 Dish and TD88 Dish in Tandem
66°East to 60°West.
AZbox PrmHD + OpnbxS9HD + Skybox + DrHD F15
2x VboxII AZ-EL
2 m+ Alcoa PF + BSC421 C-Band lnbf...
+SS2/TwHnS2-3200 pci/TBS6925 pci
1.5 Fortec Star -Gbox - HtoH Ku/Ka/C
My Location
UK
certainly not the speediest delivery service ..
my 16 port switch was sent by the supplier about a week ago and has been received by China post airmail service ...but alas has not left China yet.
currently languishing in Quanzhou where I believe there is an airport..but not moved for 4 days.
I guess their national holiday was this week ..
So who knows ..this may be a factor.
Fingers crossed it gets airborne soon.
lol
 
Vipersan

Vipersan

Emmett Browns Ghost
Staff member
Messages
10,914
My Satellite Setup
IP9000HD +
TD110 Dish and TD88 Dish in Tandem
66°East to 60°West.
AZbox PrmHD + OpnbxS9HD + Skybox + DrHD F15
2x VboxII AZ-EL
2 m+ Alcoa PF + BSC421 C-Band lnbf...
+SS2/TwHnS2-3200 pci/TBS6925 pci
1.5 Fortec Star -Gbox - HtoH Ku/Ka/C
My Location
UK
Thanks for the link ..
My Chinglish isn't too good ..but it appears it works ok in diseqc 1.1 mode from what I can make out ..
and since I split off the diseqc 1.2 control signal prior to the switch input ..I am hopeful this will work in my favour..
Only time will tell..
rgds
VS
 
Vipersan

Vipersan

Emmett Browns Ghost
Staff member
Messages
10,914
My Satellite Setup
IP9000HD +
TD110 Dish and TD88 Dish in Tandem
66°East to 60°West.
AZbox PrmHD + OpnbxS9HD + Skybox + DrHD F15
2x VboxII AZ-EL
2 m+ Alcoa PF + BSC421 C-Band lnbf...
+SS2/TwHnS2-3200 pci/TBS6925 pci
1.5 Fortec Star -Gbox - HtoH Ku/Ka/C
My Location
UK
Apparently on the move this morning ..
Currently in Xiamen (Formerly Amoy) where they also have an airport ...and my switch went through customs check - export security scan ..
So I guess it will soon be in the air ..if it aint already..
;)
 
Vipersan

Vipersan

Emmett Browns Ghost
Staff member
Messages
10,914
My Satellite Setup
IP9000HD +
TD110 Dish and TD88 Dish in Tandem
66°East to 60°West.
AZbox PrmHD + OpnbxS9HD + Skybox + DrHD F15
2x VboxII AZ-EL
2 m+ Alcoa PF + BSC421 C-Band lnbf...
+SS2/TwHnS2-3200 pci/TBS6925 pci
1.5 Fortec Star -Gbox - HtoH Ku/Ka/C
My Location
UK
Ive not used that one, although Ive got summat similar outside under a plastic bag (!)

Im using one of these - the waterproofing is better so I might get another one at some point :

http://sateuropa.co.uk/cart/catalog/dish-motorsandfraslswitches/emp-centauri-diseqc-16andfrasl1-2170.html

on the F3 in disecq 1.2 mode.
How does that work AS ?
Is it on a fixed dish and you just select out of 16 lnbs ?
I need both 1.1 and 1.2 ..
1.2 to move the motor ..and 1.1 to select the required lnb.
On account I'm using multiple lnbs on a motorised dish ..
I have an 8 port version of the centauri ..and it simply wont do the job for my situation ..
rgds
VS
 
Analoguesat

Analoguesat

Administrator
Staff member
Messages
46,920
Location
Scottish Borders
My Satellite Setup
TM 5402HD
Skybox F3
Sky+ UK.
My Location
Scottish Borders
Lnbs on several fixed dishes and when you select one it "moves" the dish - you get the moving dish info up on screen - which is bloody annoying actually! (although a quick stab on the exit button kills the message & gives you the channel)

The mode is set by dip switches on the unit. Cant remember if you can set mixed modes - and as its chucking it down outside any further investigation will need to be in the morning :D
 
Vipersan

Vipersan

Emmett Browns Ghost
Staff member
Messages
10,914
My Satellite Setup
IP9000HD +
TD110 Dish and TD88 Dish in Tandem
66°East to 60°West.
AZbox PrmHD + OpnbxS9HD + Skybox + DrHD F15
2x VboxII AZ-EL
2 m+ Alcoa PF + BSC421 C-Band lnbf...
+SS2/TwHnS2-3200 pci/TBS6925 pci
1.5 Fortec Star -Gbox - HtoH Ku/Ka/C
My Location
UK
Lnbs on several fixed dishes and when you select one it "moves" the dish - you get the moving dish info up on screen - which is bloody annoying actually! (although a quick stab on the exit button kills the message & gives you the channel)

The mode is set by dip switches on the unit. Cant remember if you can set mixed modes - and as its chucking it down outside any further investigation will need to be in the morning :D
That was the reason I abandoned the Centauri ..
I couldn't get a mixed mode to work ..
I need full control to send Carl to any pont on the arc so ..70 plus positions needed in diseqc 1.2 ..and at the same time send a 1.1 signal to select the relevant lnb (out of 7)..
Now double this problem as the same system of controls also needs to move a second dish (Christina) and select between 2 lnbs..
the other vacant diseqc 1.1 ports will be assigned to other dishes both fixed and usals controlled ..
Clear as mud eh..
 
Vipersan

Vipersan

Emmett Browns Ghost
Staff member
Messages
10,914
My Satellite Setup
IP9000HD +
TD110 Dish and TD88 Dish in Tandem
66°East to 60°West.
AZbox PrmHD + OpnbxS9HD + Skybox + DrHD F15
2x VboxII AZ-EL
2 m+ Alcoa PF + BSC421 C-Band lnbf...
+SS2/TwHnS2-3200 pci/TBS6925 pci
1.5 Fortec Star -Gbox - HtoH Ku/Ka/C
My Location
UK
Quick diagram of the intended use of the 16 port Gecen 1.1 switch ..
This will only be used for lnb control ..
All motor control will be routed through a basic diseqc 1.0 switch ...and a couple of lnbs on the usals motors..
Thus I will need to send 3 commands to say select the XMW lnb on Carl and avoid moving Christina ..
A diseqc 1.0 command plus a disec 1.2 command to move the motor(s) ...and a diseqc 1.1 command to select the XMW lnb ..
Mind blowing I know ..but this system does work at the moment using exactly the same setuop BUT 2x gecen 8 port switches ...which I hope to replace with 1x 16 port Gecen 1.1 switch ..and reduce my losses in the process ..
rgds
VS
 

Attachments

Vipersan

Vipersan

Emmett Browns Ghost
Staff member
Messages
10,914
My Satellite Setup
IP9000HD +
TD110 Dish and TD88 Dish in Tandem
66°East to 60°West.
AZbox PrmHD + OpnbxS9HD + Skybox + DrHD F15
2x VboxII AZ-EL
2 m+ Alcoa PF + BSC421 C-Band lnbf...
+SS2/TwHnS2-3200 pci/TBS6925 pci
1.5 Fortec Star -Gbox - HtoH Ku/Ka/C
My Location
UK
This morning China Post reports my switch has cleared customs and has been sent to the airline in Beijing..
Hopefully it will be airborn very soon now.

It's had quite a journey already ..
I just hope they don't lose it over here ...as has happened before to me ..
A Hughes lnb bought in the US ..made it all the way accross several states ..crossed the Atlantic ...only to be lost in the UK by Yodel..
..one of the reasons I'm so keen to track my parcels every day ..when possible.
 
Last edited:
Vipersan

Vipersan

Emmett Browns Ghost
Staff member
Messages
10,914
My Satellite Setup
IP9000HD +
TD110 Dish and TD88 Dish in Tandem
66°East to 60°West.
AZbox PrmHD + OpnbxS9HD + Skybox + DrHD F15
2x VboxII AZ-EL
2 m+ Alcoa PF + BSC421 C-Band lnbf...
+SS2/TwHnS2-3200 pci/TBS6925 pci
1.5 Fortec Star -Gbox - HtoH Ku/Ka/C
My Location
UK
This morning China Post reports my switch has cleared customs and has been sent to the airline in Beijing..
Hopefully it will be airborn very soon now.

It's had quite a journey already ..
I just hope they don't lose it over here ...as has happened before to me ..
A Hughes lnb bought in the US ..made it all the way accross several states ..crossed the Atlantic ...only to be lost in the UK by Yodel..
..one of the reasons I'm so keen to track my parcels every day ..when possible.

Well ..that wasn't such a long wait ..
the Gecen 16 port 1.1 switch is here ..
arrived this morning ..
So not every lnb transfered as yet ..
but hooked up ports 1 (SL3 Ka A) ..... 6 (XMW Horizontal Ka D) ....16 (usually port 7 but for test purposes used 16 Inverto Ka ) ....and port 3 (C band ESX Circular)
So far everything works seamlessly ..
The correct dish moves to correct position....driven by a diseqc 1.0 command ... through a 4 port switch ....and the correct lnb selected on that dish..via the GD-1601A
There IS a slight delay as the XMW is selected as there is also a H/V voltage switch outside ..that selects either the XMW (H) or the Norsat (V) ...but both work within seconds.
Looks like this is the way forward afterall..
rgds
VS
 

Attachments

Vipersan

Vipersan

Emmett Browns Ghost
Staff member
Messages
10,914
My Satellite Setup
IP9000HD +
TD110 Dish and TD88 Dish in Tandem
66°East to 60°West.
AZbox PrmHD + OpnbxS9HD + Skybox + DrHD F15
2x VboxII AZ-EL
2 m+ Alcoa PF + BSC421 C-Band lnbf...
+SS2/TwHnS2-3200 pci/TBS6925 pci
1.5 Fortec Star -Gbox - HtoH Ku/Ka/C
My Location
UK
All appears to work ok ...but the F15 shows an oddity ..
port 16 selected for Ku inverto on Carl motor selected via diseqc 1.0 (postion command issued 29 = diseqc 1.2) ......and of course lnb selected port 16 diseqc 1.1.
Here are 2 screens showing this selection process on the F15 ...but the first screen doesn't show 16 ...rather an @ sign..
but it works ok ..
looks like there is a bug in the F15s firmware ...
lol
,,perhaps they never thought anyone would _actually_ produce a 16 port switch ???
rgds
VS
 

Attachments

Vipersan

Vipersan

Emmett Browns Ghost
Staff member
Messages
10,914
My Satellite Setup
IP9000HD +
TD110 Dish and TD88 Dish in Tandem
66°East to 60°West.
AZbox PrmHD + OpnbxS9HD + Skybox + DrHD F15
2x VboxII AZ-EL
2 m+ Alcoa PF + BSC421 C-Band lnbf...
+SS2/TwHnS2-3200 pci/TBS6925 pci
1.5 Fortec Star -Gbox - HtoH Ku/Ka/C
My Location
UK
A quick test this morning revealed the Gecen 1601 will also pass usals commands ..(diseqc 1.3)
I hung Tom and Dick on ports 15 and 16 of the switch and successfully moved them with the F15 ...
Command structure was for example Dick (port 15) was Diseqc 1.0 off ....Diseqc 1.1 (16) ...usals 53E (Express AM22 ) ...
Dick moved to the correct position and Grozny came in at over 9db ..
Dick being the usals driven TD88.
No worries about current consumption really as the Gecen 1601 will comfortably pass half an amp.
rgds
VS
 
Top