DiseqC Motor internal comparison pictures

[Hakon]

@pedro2000uk
Just little tricky to get it out,but no problem.
In the sistermodel, the Golden Interstar, there was no bearing in the cover.

There is a special glue from Loctite 648 that you can use to glue the bearing in place.

 

[wod]

just some pictures of my moteck diseqc motor, it looks to be updated or revised pcb as there is a date of 19th aug 05 ?

i've just taken it off my dish as its not working correctly, the movement of the dish moving is not fluid but rather stop , start etc

 

[coloured pony]

I'm pretty convinced that it is a moteck, just the latest model.

And also a Fortecstar Turner.

Having not bought a motor from maplin due to them hiking up the prices
to counter the reduction in vat, they had two motors in the store.

Their own brand at £49.99 and a fortecstar at £59.99, the salesman
told me, both are moteck, rebadged it appears you pay an extra £10
for the fortecstar box.

Bob

 

[coloured pony]

a little out of place, but its was all to do with a sat motor I may have bought, then did not due to them hiking up prices., this is the response
has expected, dear John type
Dear Mr

Thank you for your email.

The average price of our offering is so low, we feel there would be little benefit in reducing the range by very small amounts, but it would be more beneficial to all our customers if our more expensive promotional products were discounted even further, therefore Maplin intend to keep the retail price on most of our offering the same, while adjusting the ex-vat rate to comply with the change to VAT.

Kind Regards

Becky Hey
Customer Care Department
Maplin Electronics

Well they lost a customer on principle.

Bob

 

[guest poster]

According to The Wizard.. the Technomate 2200's are made by Motek anyway... Sat' Superstore say they are the strongest ones they have tested so they reversed their policy of not using Diseqc motors only 36v stuff ... hmmm. I suppose Motek could make a motor to Technomate's stronger spec... or they are yet more badged 2100s.

 

[wod]

also i've not tested this myself but people say the tm2200 motor is quicker than the moteck motor

any truth to this ?

 

[satelliteman]

There doesn't seem any difference between the two models at all

 

[LAURO2008]

Hello,

Can we conclude that Clarke-Tech HH390, so far, is the most well made inside?

 

[guest poster]

Hello,

Can we conclude that Clarke-Tech HH390, so far, is the most well made inside?

You could be right . certainly looks one of the best ...

 

[LAURO2008]

You could be right . certainly looks one of the best ...

thanks...my personal experience is (only) between moteck 2100 (plastic inside) and HH390 (steel) and I could notice the difference

 

[thecaretaker]

Going on a photo of the internals of the Super Dark Motor, it looks striking like the insides of the internals of the Clarke-Tech HH390 posted earlier. I've tried to put them side by side and pinpoint the similarities.

 

[guest poster]

Thanks for taking the time to do that clear comparison diagram.

I think it's hard with the market we have today to tell who made what etc.. because as that demonstrates, 2 motors can share some components but not others even though they have the same pcb..
Stb manufacturers use tuners from one manufacturer, PSU's from another, MPEG 2 (or 4) processors from another and either share the identical front end software or decide to do their own version on what can be the same chipset as another stb.

Like central heating boilers/ cars/ DVD players... etc.. A boiler can use x pump, y heat exchanger, z diverter valve etc..

What we have also noticed is the software within the motor can vary widely ... USALS or compatible versions can vary in motors and stbs ... we tested some stbs recently and they either didn't control or even screwed up most motors ... except the STAB motors?

 

[Hakon]

I'm pretty shoure that a OEM makes all these motors like Golden Interstar, Clarke Tech ,Super Dark etc as they look the same outside and some inside.

Moteck is a another OEM, they have confirmed that they make other brands.

STAB make their own, i guess.

BTW i have found SAAB components in VOLVO (C70 cabrio) factorymade cars.....hmm.Yes the components was marked SAAB.

Why invent the wheel two times.

 

[LAURO2008]

You could be right . certainly looks one of the best ...

Sorry Pedro, but if it so, which one else can be compared to the HH390?
I mean, which one else has made with gear in steel ?

Thanks

 

[guest poster]

see pictures in post 31# above ... the dark motor has the same internals inc metal main gear and same pcb as the Clarke

I'm not 100% on the metal gears v plastic thing anyway because plastic can be stronger or have better properties than metal- it depends etc.. ... and metal can be noisy ... The Moteks might win through in the end because they sell so many and that can lead to a better product .. but right now the Clarke has to be one of the better ones.

is it quite.. quiet?

 

[LAURO2008]

Yes, it is

Many thanks!

 

[dodgemaster]

as requested a few pics inside my u/s hh90

 

[guest poster]

Thanks for doing that... dodge

btw.. been meaning to open one of them up for ages... never had one go (yet) ..


I say... that looks like a seriously better build ... (but it still broke).




How strong is that spring on the body of the main gear ... looks like a limiter that will give..

 

[dodgemaster]

the spring sits against a arm that is part of the casting of the motor housingacting as a harware limiter, when I took the motor out it went off with a good twang, so yes I would say its quite strong, it also had a small amount of water inside the unit not that that was the fact it went wrong. I would say it was the worm gear that caused the problem , worm gear is ally and the main gear is steel and I think it shaved the worm gear and seized up with the fragments and that caused the teeth on the other gears to flatten out. Well that's my theory anyway

 

[guest]

Thanks for putting those up.

Is it not the case that some clones have the plastic gearing replaced with metal?

Whilst it may seem obvious that Motors with all metal gearing should be longer lasting, is there evidence showing that that is so?