Diseqc Switch Upgrade Help

[CSB]

Can anyone help me with my choice of switch, that will allow me to add a motorised dish to my current fixed dish multi Lnb setup.

Not realy knowing what to search for, I came across this "AXING SPU 81-00 8 IN 1 DISEQC RELAY" for £46 on Conrad-Uk web site. (pics attached). It seems to fit the bill without changing my existing wiring (other than a new feed to the motor).

What I have at the moment is a 1m fixed dish on 28.2e, 23.5e, 19.2e and 13e with twin-lnbs, feeding 2x 4way to 2 recievers (his n hers) and a redundant 60cm that is on 30w (No FTA left ).

I am hoping that I can move the 3 Lnbs to the relocated fixed 60cm for 28.2e, 19.2e and 13e. Then put my original motor back on the 1m.


Any help or advice on other options welcome

Thanks csb

 

[OldBen]

That looks like an 8/1 switch, do you mean to replace a single 4/1 with the 8/1 to add the motor through it?

I am no expert, but you may want to post receiver model you are using, as you will be "stacking" the switch and motor commands.

60cm might be borderline for 13/19/28, but might work ok? Have you tried search for other threads on this?

 

[CSB]

Thanks OldBen for the reply,

After re-reading through my post/question I will clarify:

That looks like an 8/1 switch, do you mean to replace a single 4/1 with the 8/1 to add the motor through it?

I am no expert, but you may want to post receiver model you are using, as you will be "stacking" the switch and motor commands.

60cm might be borderline for 13/19/28, but might work ok? Have you tried search for other threads on this?

Your first point is correct, my novice objective was to replace a single 4/1 with the 8/1 and add a motor through it.
The reception on "13/19/28" on the 60cm is good enough for me (I've had it working good before).

Both my reciever's are Enigma1 Linux (Technomate 600 and DM500s clone, as per "My System"), but for this I am using the TM600

As for searching, I've read and followed many posts on this forum over the last couple of years. Only searching the web, is how I found this switch, and a posted my question in What to Buy-What to Install

So to Clarify:

Living in West-London with a small, but south facing garden with a good view east to west and part of a terraced street I can only have (current regulations) 2 satellite dishes (100/60cm).

I changed my Original single receiver with motorised dish(1m) install, to a fixed dish(1m with 4 dual Lnbs) +(single Lnb from second dish 60cm), for faster satellite switching and to accomodate an additional receiver.

I have (2) 4-way comitted switches.
Reciever 1: 28.2e, 23.5e, 19.2e & 13e
Receiver 2: 28.2e, 19.2e, 13e & 30w(now redundant for FTA)
This all works perfect.

I would like to add a motor to "Reciever 1", which I cant do with a 4-way if I want to keep 4 fixed satellites. This is why I'm asking for advice on the my next upgrade.

The Switch I posted my question I found online "AXING SPU 81-00 8 IN 1 DISEQC RELAY" for £46, although a bit on the high side of my budget, would let me expand my 2 dish limitations with additional DISEqC ports. However if there is a cheaper/better alternative, uncommitted 2 way +(2x 4-way) that you can help with.

I have no experience in these things, so look for your help ?

 

[Terryl]

Put the switch after the motor (coax goes from receiver to motor then the switch and LNB's) and there will be no problems, this is the standard way to do a motorized setup.

Second receiver will be a slave with no motor control, this avoids problems with both receivers trying to control the motor at the same time.

 

[CSB]

Put the switch after the motor (coax goes from receiver to motor then the switch and LNB's) and there will be no problems, this is the standard way to do a motorized setup.

Second receiver will be a slave with no motor control, this avoids problems with both receivers trying to control the motor at the same time.

Cheers Terryl,

but that won't let (or give me the option) to have more than 3 fixed Lnb's.

But I have question ?

I have had some conflicting advice on a simple 4-way with motor.


As You said "motor first then switch".

Someone else said switch first then you can choose switch port AA. AB. BA. BB.

cheers csb

Sorry for the Edit,

this is a single receiver setup. I wil tag on (if she could read english I would be dead) the other receiver later.

 

[Terryl]

If you put the motor before the switch(s) you can have any type and number of switch's after it, the motorized dish/LNB will feed all receivers with the satellite info its pointing to, you can have 16 LNB's (or more) and hundreds of receivers but only use 1 master receiver to move the motor.

One question, why use a motor when your going to have more then 1 dish with multiple LNB's on them?

A fixed system would be less complicated, and you can get a multi input to multi output switch that will do the job your looking to do.

 

[CSB]

If you put the motor before the switch(s) you can have any type and number of switch's after it, the motorized dish/LNB will feed all receivers with the satellite info its pointing to, you can have 16 LNB's (or more) and hundreds of receivers but only use 1 master receiver to move the motor.

One question, why use a motor when your going to have more then 1 dish with multiple LNB's on them?

A fixed system would be less complicated, and you can get a multi input to multi output switch that will do the job your looking to do.

Terryl,

Your Question ? "why use a motor when your going to have more then 1 dish with multiple LNB's on them?

I'm not having more than 1 dish with multiple Lnb's. 1 dish fixed-multi-dual-Lnb's, 1 dish single Lnb with motor

Example's,

(1)Some satellite's broadcast FTA a live event that I want to see.
(2) 3 satellite positions are too close together for a fixed dish multi Lnb, and a second dish lnb can focus on it.
(3)Its a lot cheaper, and easier (with a bit of advice) to adjust and focus individual dishes, then switch the feeds to the reciever.


"you can get a multi input to multi output switch that will do the job your looking to do"



Terryl, I think this was my Original Question ?
Oh! my budget is (i'll do the labour) £50/$55

Anymore and I'll be better spending it on a HD/S2 Reciever upgrade.


lol csb

 

[Terryl]

I have one motorized (39") dish and 2 fixed dishes with twin LNB's on them run to 6 receivers, 1 receiver is the master for the motor, all the others get to watch what I want on that dish, the motorized dish has an Invacom QPH-031 LNB on it for circular and linear "Ku" band satellites.

All this runs thru two DPP44 switches, I'm happy with the setup, I can explore the Clark belt looking for FTA feeds and still watch the other stuff.

Sounds like what you want to do.

 

[CSB]

Hi Terry,

Although the weather has been excellent today, Scotland won their 2nd game in the Rugby World Cup this morning, so I have decided that dish reconfiguration is out of the window today.

I did make a bonus purchase on the way (by legs) to the local Beer Shop. New neighbours had an old 1m with 2x Lnbs, which they had removed from their new house and left in their front garden. An offer of £20 was accepted, so I'm going back to collect it tomorrow. A fair price I believe, but just in case anyone in the Hayes/W-London area wants it back, they better speak with the new owners of the property.

But back to the switches question. As its not a show stopper, I'll just plod on with the (Reciever - Motor - 4 way-Switch - Lnb) setup for now.

cheers csb


PS

http://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/...diseqc-switching-between-fixed-motorised.html

I just found this (Bun Fight) that seems to give me more questions than answers.

In summary, If you want "like I do" to add a single motor to a fixed dish. It works both ways: REC-MOTOR-SWITCH-LNB's or REC-SWITCH-MOTOR-LNB.

But if you want to ADD up to 4 motors/single-lnb's to a basic system, then you have to go REC- SWITCH-MOTOR's-LNB


Is it that simple ? (apart from the diseqc/sat-selection/lnb/configuration)


Or am I just a caveman staring at a wheel for the first time ?