Advice Needed Dreambox DM7080 HD 2x DVB-S2 2x DVB-C/T Tuner Linux Combo Receiver

[Spiff]

Good afternoon from a sunny Mullion Cove : )

Are any of you gentlemen using one of these or a simlar model ?

Yours truly has been thinking of asking Father Christmas for one of these so that we can use the 4k resolution on our TV.

Apart from a hard drive that came with the set we have no 4k content.

From the esteemed members there are sats out there now with 4k content.

It appears that Technomate have still to launch one or I would have made a purchase, there being a lot of downloads available for Technomate.

God Bless Spiff

 

[Archive7]

The DM7080 doesn't support 4K only HD as far as I can see
Dreambox DM7080 HD 2x DVB-S2 Tuner PVR ready Full HD 1080p Linux Receiver | Dreambox | HDTV-Receiver (Sat) | Digitale Sat-Receiver, Anlagen und Zubehör - hm-sat-shop.de

I asked Father Christmas to send me the VU+ SOLO 4K which has Twin FBC tuner.
The VU+ SOLO 4K does.
VU+ Solo 4K 2x DVB-S2 FBC Tuner PVR Ready Twin Linux Receiver UHD 2160p | VU+ | HDTV-Receiver (Sat) | Digitale Sat-Receiver, Anlagen und Zubehör - hm-sat-shop.de

You can add a DVB-C/T/T2 module
VU+ DVB-C/T2 Tuner Uno / Ultimo / Duo² / Solo SE / Solo SE V2 / Solo 4K | VU+ | HDTV-Receiver (Sat) | Digitale Sat-Receiver, Anlagen und Zubehör - hm-sat-shop.de
or
VU+ Turbo USB 1x DVB-C/T2 Tuner | VU+ | HDTV-Receiver (Sat) | Digitale Sat-Receiver, Anlagen und Zubehör - hm-sat-shop.de

Or get a complete receiver from Amazon Germany
https://www.amazon.de/VU-DVB-S2-DVB-C-Tuner-Receiver/dp/B016BNMSO0/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1481472849&sr=8-4&keywords=VU++SOLO+4k

and with the dual DVB-C/T/T2
https://www.amazon.de/VU-DVB-S2-DVB...F8&qid=1481472849&sr=8-5&keywords=VU++SOLO+4k

 

[Spiff]

The DM7080 doesn't support 4K only HD as far as I can see
Dreambox DM7080 HD 2x DVB-S2 Tuner PVR ready Full HD 1080p Linux Receiver | Dreambox | HDTV-Receiver (Sat) | Digitale Sat-Receiver, Anlagen und Zubehör - hm-sat-shop.de

I asked Father Christmas to send me the VU+ SOLO 4K which has Twin FBC tuner.
The VU+ SOLO 4K does.
VU+ Solo 4K 2x DVB-S2 FBC Tuner PVR Ready Twin Linux Receiver UHD 2160p | VU+ | HDTV-Receiver (Sat) | Digitale Sat-Receiver, Anlagen und Zubehör - hm-sat-shop.de

You can add a DVB-C/T/T2 module
VU+ DVB-C/T2 Tuner Uno / Ultimo / Duo² / Solo SE / Solo SE V2 / Solo 4K | VU+ | HDTV-Receiver (Sat) | Digitale Sat-Receiver, Anlagen und Zubehör - hm-sat-shop.de
or
VU+ Turbo USB 1x DVB-C/T2 Tuner | VU+ | HDTV-Receiver (Sat) | Digitale Sat-Receiver, Anlagen und Zubehör - hm-sat-shop.de

Or get a complete receiver from Amazon Germany
https://www.amazon.de/VU-DVB-S2-DVB-C-Tuner-Receiver/dp/B016BNMSO0/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1481472849&sr=8-4&keywords=VU++SOLO+4k

and with the dual DVB-C/T/T2
https://www.amazon.de/VU-DVB-S2-DVB-C-Tuner-Receiver/dp/B016BOUGUC/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1481472849&sr=8-5&keywords=VU++SOLO+4k

Thank you for the links I will have a read.

This is the eBay advert I copied from, the receiver has 4k on the front plus I translated the spec and that confirmed it.

Dreambox DM7080 HD 2x DVB-S2 2x DVB-C/T Tuner Linux Combo Receiver SOFORT LIEFER 4044845708017 | eBay

A lot of equipment sold now uses very similar model numbers, making it difficult to be sure what you are looking at.

Spiff

 

[Archive7]

Mutant is NOT an original Dreambox receiver. The title is misleading.

 

[Ghostleader]

Mutant is NOT an original Dreambox receiver. The title is misleading.

Your dam tooting its misleading, its a completely different make & model! lol

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[Mickha]

The VU+ Uno 4K is now available, and soon the VU+ Ultimo 4K should be available.

 

[Archive7]

The VU+ Uno 4K is now available, and soon the VU+ Ultimo 4K should be available.

Wonderful.
I think the UNO is limited can't have both DVB-S2 and DVB-C/T/T2 which is what Spiff wants.
The ULTIMO is too expensive for me ATM. The SOLO 4K has been around for a while so perhaps it has some support already.

 

[Spiff]

Your dam tooting its misleading, its a completely different make & model! lol

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With the same model number ?

Given that spec below : - in English

Right at the bottom I have coppied the eBay Item specifics Condition which says 1080 it could be an error as far as that goes but the rest of the sec looks OK to me.

It mentions Usals but not a blind scan ?

EN" lang="EN">Mutant HD51 4K UHD SAT Receiver 2xDVB-S2 Tuner 2160p Linux E2

The latest Mut @ nt HD51 4K satellite receiver is finally available from us. The heart of the new HD51 4K receiver is the latest BCM 7251s DMIPS CPU: 10500 DMIPS processor. Now you can finally switch channels under 1 sec. The picture quality is absolutely remarkable with 2160p 4K Full Resolution. IPTV lists are processed / reproduced by the HD51 receiver. Experience Ultra High Definition (UHD) TV with your new Mutant HD51 4k Box.

Technical specifications:

E2 Linux OS operating system
CPU BCM 7251sDMIPS CPU 10500 (2x1700Mhz)
2x DVB-S2 tuner included
SoC 28 nm
Clocking in Mhz 1700
Cores 2
Threads 2
Max. Video resolution 2160p (4K).
H.265 Yes
VP9
4K Youtube Yes.
VP8 - Youtube Yes.
OpenGL ES 2.0
Nand Flash 4096MB (4G
DDR memory 1 GB
1x Smartcard Reader
1x Common Interface
Tuner changeable yes
2 x Plug & Play Tuner slots suitable for DVB-S2 or Hybrid Tuner (DVB-C / T / T2)
1x USB 2.0 front
1x USB 3.0 rear
LAN (max Mbps) 1000 Gigabit LAN connection
Hard disk yes - 1 x Internal 2.5 "possible and external
HDMI version 2.0
RCA Yes
S / PDIF (Optical) Yes
Display VFD DOT-matrix display
Power supply External 12V
Consumption (FSD) 13,1W | 7,1W | 0.5W
Dimensions (Wt) 30 x 22 x 5
Restart: 27 seconds (tested with OpenATV Images)
New Gui Start: 7 seconds (OpenATV Images tested)
Youtube 4K still needs extra software update, this will appear later.

Delivery:
1x Mutant HD51 4K satellite receiver 2x DVB-S2
1x remote control including batteries
1x external power supply / mains cable
1x HDMI cable
1x Short manual
1x hard disk holder incl. Cables & screws





Item specifics
Condition:
New: A brand new, unused, unopened and undamaged item in original retail ... Read more
About the condition
Audio / Video Outputs: Digital Audio Optical TOSLINK, HDMI, HDMI IN & OUT
Product Type: HD Digital Data Interfaces: Ethernet port, WLAN, CI (Common Interface) slot, USB 3.0
Surround Sound formats: Dolby Digital, Dolby Surround Features: Dual receiver, Free reception, Teletext
Supported DiSEqC levels: 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 2.0, 2.1 Manufacturing warranty: 2 years
Manufacturer: Dreambox
EAN: 4044845708017 Max. Resolution: 1080p

 

[Archive7]

Mutant official website doesn't claim it is Dreambox model.
HD51 4K-HEVC » mutant-digital.net
Funny thing is that they don't have a manual there.

The seller on eBay is misleading with the title.
I believe the Mutant is indeed 4K if this is what you want, but I would recommend to wait until you know exactly what you will get

 

[Spiff]

Wonderful.
I think the UNO is limited can't have both DVB-S2 and DVB-C/T/T2 which is what Spiff wants.
The ULTIMO is too expensive for me ATM. The SOLO 4K has been around for a while so perhaps it has some support already.

I require just a satellite tuner in the unit as it is to add 4k, I believe there is no 4k on terrestrial TV as of yet.

Spiff

 

[Archive7]

I require just a satellite tuner in the unit as it is to add 4k, I believe there is no 4k on terrestrial TV as of yet.

Spiff

In that case, take a look at the UNO 4k
It is still a limited receiver compared to the SOLO 4k and the ULTIMO 4k
Please note that the tuner is FBC (Full Band Capture) which makes it possible to watch more than one transponder while recording a channel on a different TP.
VU Plus

 

[blademedia]

The mutant is a good set top box, but hold on, the tuners are plug and play and atm it wont decode s2x, there supposed to be/have brought out a tuner for s2x, but ive yet to find one,

There's another box coming out that does s2x will post link when I find it, whatever you buy make sure it will decode S2x, lots of programmes will be broadcast in S2x in the near future ;)

 

[blademedia]

There's another box coming out that does s2x will post link when I find it

OCTAGON SF4008 4K UHD 2160p Linux E2 Receiver - Tapatalk

 

[Archive7]

Thanks for mentioning the S2X I learnt something new today.
I am interested in satellite receivers with DBV-S2 FBC tuner and till now I have seen only VU+ and Gigablue offering it.
Are there any other manufacturers?

 

[blademedia]

This company might do them ?
HEVC 4K Satellite Media Server - Technicolor

 

[archive10]

This company might do them ?
HEVC 4K Satellite Media Server - Technicolor

I don't think Technicolor do retail boxes - but they are one of the largest manufacturers for operators and others.
They bought the STB part of Cisco last year, consolidating their footprint.
We buy most of our IPTV boxes from them.

I think you will struggle to find this as a retail item.

 

[blademedia]

I don't think Technicolor do retail boxes - but they are one of the largest manufacturers for operators and others.
They bought the STB part of Cisco last year, consolidating their footprint.
We buy most of our IPTV boxes from them.

I think you will struggle to find this as a retail item.

You can buy them st1, looked into it before Germany I think was the place I found them, yes they do most companies Bein etc

 

[archive10]

Mutant official website doesn't claim it is Dreambox model.
HD51 4K-HEVC » mutant-digital.net
Funny thing is that they don't have a manual there.

The seller on eBay is misleading with the title.
I believe the Mutant is indeed 4K if this is what you want, but I would recommend to wait until you know exactly what you will get

The specs says that the SoC is a Broadcom 7251s, and that definitely supports UHD.
(This goes for the Octagon as well)

So it does 4K (more pixels), but the HDR support is limited to HDR10 (better pixels), and, according to BCM, HLG.
However, I have yet to see HLG content play on a 7251s or 7252s. HLG is what is being promoted by the BBC.

Most of the stuff that's transmitted on Eutelsat and Astra are non-HDR (at least was when I cheked in September), so you should be fine.
HDR10 works great with Blu-ray content, as this is what most studios support, and is present in the BCM UHD chipsets, so there are already millions and millions out there.

Even the NetFlix 4K is so far just that, 4K. They have announced HDR, but it's so far very limited.
And of course - there's the bitrate issue. Proper UHD (4K, HDR, extended Gamut, UHD audio) is trending towards 35Mb/s.
For streaming services, this precludes a good portion of customers.
For SAT operators it means you could have had revenue from 5-6 HD channels instead.

And there's still many standards and lots of incompatibilities between content, STB and TV, so don't expect out-of-box operation with anything off the air.

I guess what I am trying to say is: Do experiment and see what is out there, but don't expect the equipment to be future-proof...

 

[Spiff]

As UHD is all quite new I wonder about going for something low cost for now like this : -

The sat only version can be found for £113 : )

Ferguson Ariva 4K UHD - Satellite Receiver | Alza.co.uk

Below is data from a pdf of spec on the unit : -

Spiff


BASIC INFORMATION ABOUT THE RECEIVER

1. Main features

✔ Reception of UHD (ultra high definition channels), HD

✔ HDMI 2.0,

✔ Availability of programmable timers

✔ Separate lists of favourite, TV and Radio channels

✔ Quick channel search function (QuickFind)

✔ Teletext and on-screen captions

✔ DiSEqC 1.0, 1.1 and DiSEqC 1.2, USALS

✔ MPEG-2, MPEG-4, MPEG-4 AVC/H.264/H.265 standards

✔ Compatible with DVB-S/S2, DVB-T/T2 and DVB-C systems (depending on model)

✔ Card reader for pay-per-view television

✔ Common Interface (depending on model)


SPECIFICATION

Ariva 4K/4K Combo

1.Main Chip Sets

Chipset Amlogic S905-B, Quad core Cortex A53 @ 2.02 GHz

Flash Memory EMMC 8GB

DDR III Memory 1GB

2.DVBS Tuner & Demodulator

Tuner Type ON BOARD

Frequency Range 950 ~ 2150MHz

Demodulator Mode DVB-S (QPSK, ETS 300 421) and DVB-S2 (QPSK / 8PSK, ETS 302 307)

RF Input Connector F-Female

3.DVBT/T2/C Tuner & Demodulator (depending on model)

Demodulator Mode ETSI EN 302-755 V1.3.1 and EN 300-744 V1.6.1 compliant

Frequency Range 52.5MHz to 866MHz

RF Input Connector IEC-Female

4.TS Demux

Demultiplexer MPEG2/MPEG4

Input Bit Rate Max 100Mbit/s

5.Video

Video Decode

H.264/H.265 HEVC MP@L5.0 up to 4K UHD@60fps

H.264/H.265 AVC MP@L5.1 up to 4K UHD@60fps

H.264/H.265 MVC up to 4K UHD@60fps

MPEG-4 ASP@L5 up to 1080P@60fps

AVS Jizhun Profile up to 1080P@60fps

MPEG-2 MP@HL up to 1080P@60fps

MPEG-1 MP@HL up to 1080P@60fps

RealVideo 8/9/10 up to 1080P@60fps

WebM up to VGA

Video File Format Support *.mkv, *.wmv,*.mpg,*.mpeg,*.dat,*avi,*.mov,*.iso,*.mp4,*.rm,*.jpg,

*.bmp, *gif and others

HDMI Output HDMI 2.0 (video format default @ Auto)

Aspect Ratio Auto, Full screen

Video Resolution 4K@60Hz 4K@50Hz 1080p/i 720p

6.Network

Wi -Fi Built-in 802.11 b/g/n, 2.4G/5G dual band

Ethernet 100M Ethernet RJ-45

7.Audio Decode

Audio Decode Dolby Digital/Digital Plus, MEPG, OGG,OGA,FLAC,ALAC,Ape,M4A,RM, MPEG-1

layer1/2, MPEG-2 Layer II ( DTS passthru)

Sound Mode LEFT/RIGHT/STEREO/MONO

Sampling Frequency 32KHz 44.1KHz 48KHz

8.PVR Function

42

Record

Instant Record and Timer Record

GUIDE Timer Record

Time-Shift Support Auto Time-Shift

PVR Operation

Play/Pause/Stop/Step

Fast Forward/Fast Backward 2/4/8/16

File System Support NTFS, FAT32

PVR Manager Delete recorded file

9.AV Output

Video Bandwidth SD:5.0MHz(-3d, HD:30MHz(-3d

Video Impedance 75Ω

Video Voltage Level 1.0 Vp-p

Audio Freq. Range 20~20KHz

Audio Impedance 600Ω

Audio Voltage Level 2V rms(5.6Vp-p)

 

[archive10]

As UHD is all quite new I wonder about going for something low cost for now like this : -

The sat only version can be found for £113 : )

Ferguson Ariva 4K UHD - Satellite Receiver | Alza.co.uk

Difficult to say without having one.
One thing may be the HW (Amlogic etc), but even more important is the software.
Even though it says Android as OS, this could mean anything from streamlined, smooth sailing to bitchy, buggy no-frills implementation.
As this has no open-iamge support, it is difficult to say how well this would suit an enthusiasts need...

(unless someone can find a revealing review on the web - and not written by the importer themselves )