Eutelsat 9b italia beam

stephan94

stephan94

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1.20 Channel master ( Paris)and 1200 Laminas ( Bavaria) KU and C Band
Openbox SX6 and S3 Mini, Dr HD 15, Octagon SF 4008 and Octagon SX88and SX8 HD One, TBS 6983
My Location
Bavaria and Paris
I have not read it anywhere yet.
Now at 12341V at the Italia Beam there is a second MIS
the second in QPSK
with already known transmitter.

With my 1200 laminas it is from my location
pretty close to getting a lock.
Thanks to the Mio4K, it has found everything by itself and it worked out well

2 mis.jpgmis2.jpgmis2b.jpg
 
MCelliotG

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TBS 5925, Mut@nt HD51, EDISION OSMINI, MABO 130X144, DRAGONSAT DS3000 LED MOTOR, INVERTO BLACK ULTRA TWIN LNB
My Location
Thessaloniki, Greece
Don't get it confused, it's the same frequency. A new IS ID 2 was added to this MIS, Mio shows different modulation because the one is synced with the xml that has the correct parameters and the other was auto found.
Look at the result from OpenATV which does not have 12341 in the xml
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stephan94

stephan94

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My Satellite Setup
1.20 Channel master ( Paris)and 1200 Laminas ( Bavaria) KU and C Band
Openbox SX6 and S3 Mini, Dr HD 15, Octagon SF 4008 and Octagon SX88and SX8 HD One, TBS 6983
My Location
Bavaria and Paris
Yes . I mentioned frequency 12341, but I know it's the same.
I did not stop the filter "synchronize with known frequency"
That's why there is this result.
 
MCelliotG

MCelliotG

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TBS 5925, Mut@nt HD51, EDISION OSMINI, MABO 130X144, DRAGONSAT DS3000 LED MOTOR, INVERTO BLACK ULTRA TWIN LNB
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Thessaloniki, Greece
Blindscan does not find the correct parameters when blindscanning MIS frequencies that are not synced. It returns auto values but these are corrected once the services are tuned and Tuner is selected as source for values in the settings. So, the muxes are not QPSK in reality, this is the auto value result. Possibly that could be fixed with having blindscan looking at the SDT tables, but that would slow down the searhing significantly.
 
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Dušan Šmigic

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My Satellite Setup
Dreambox DM800PVR
Gibertini OP150
Superjack 1224AZEL
My Location
Serbia, Belgrade
In Serbia, there is no more reception of Nordic Beam (12111V, 12149V, 12188V)
also there is no Italy Beam reception (12111V, 12149V, 12188V MS) .. Serbia and Belgrade are exactly between 2 beams...

I have a reception right now 12226V (Nordic) 13.25 dB, and 12265V (Italy) 13.25-13.5 dB.. on Dreambox 920/Gibertini 150

TBS 5925 it has more value, 12226V (Nordic) 14.4 dB, and 12265V (Italy) 14.5 dB...... also 12341V (Italy) 15.0 dB, 12466V (Italy) 10.4 dB 9.0E-RFScan.png
 
william-1

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OP Gibertini 100 XP+ Inverto Black Ultra 0.2
Superior Dark Motor (160° max)
(50 east to 34.5 west)
TM6902HD (A/B switch) Octagon SX88+Optima

Raven 88cm Mesh Dish + TM-1 0.1
Stab100 H to H (120° max)
(53 east to 45 west)
Octagon SX88+ (A/B switch) Edision S2

45cm dish V8 Golden 28E FreeSat Quad Lnb
Virgin Media FreeSat
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Epping Forest Essex
This beam is extremely tight as the map below illustrates,
Outside of this beam even with a very large dish you will not get this beam,E9B_Ku-band_Italy_Downlink.jpg

This is the future of designer satellite footprints. :(
 
Analoguesat

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Sky+ UK.
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Scottish Borders
That footprint is misleading - the outer ring is the 51dBW contour so the actual coverage area on larger hobby dishes will be a fair bit wider than that.

Admittedly with modern beam shaping the fall off on the beam edges will be considerable but its going to be wider than that image suggests.
 
anto@

anto@

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My Satellite Setup
dish 150 4 feed ku c lin c circ ka tbs 6925 tbs 5280
My Location
italy
please it is possible to have reports of the bundle italy, from uk, north germany belgium, the netherlands, north france thank you in advance, also write the diameter of the antenna thank you
 
Analoguesat

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No successful reports on this forum of the Italy beam as far as I can remember.
 
hvdh

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Dr.HD F16, TBS 5927, T-55, Laminas 120 cm
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Oss, NL (5.5°E 51.8°N)
please it is possible to have reports of the bundle italy, from uk, north germany belgium, the netherlands, north france thank you in advance, also write the diameter of the antenna thank you
Italy beam reception in the Netherlands with 1.2 m:
12226 V (Nordic beam) is OK
12265 V (Italy beam) is OK
12341 V (Italy beam) no lock with 8.5 dB, need 1 dB more
12466 V (Italy beam) no lock with 6.4 dB, need 1.5 dB more
9.0E-RFScan.png
 
anto@

anto@

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dish 150 4 feed ku c lin c circ ka tbs 6925 tbs 5280
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italy
thanks for the reply, but in the UK do you receive the Nordic beam?
 
william-1

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OP Gibertini 100 XP+ Inverto Black Ultra 0.2
Superior Dark Motor (160° max)
(50 east to 34.5 west)
TM6902HD (A/B switch) Octagon SX88+Optima

Raven 88cm Mesh Dish + TM-1 0.1
Stab100 H to H (120° max)
(53 east to 45 west)
Octagon SX88+ (A/B switch) Edision S2

45cm dish V8 Golden 28E FreeSat Quad Lnb
Virgin Media FreeSat
My Location
Epping Forest Essex
anto@

anto@

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dish 150 4 feed ku c lin c circ ka tbs 6925 tbs 5280
My Location
italy
for Italians residing in the UK, northern Europe, no reception, to use national TV, they must use tivusat
 
Analoguesat

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No sign of the Nordic beam here either - 1m dish 30 miles south of Edinburgh
 
Analoguesat

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for Italians residing in the UK, northern Europe, no reception, to use national TV, they must use tivusat
Ive read something recently saying most of the RAI HD channels will be going fta soon - just encrypting the usual restricted programmes
 
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Stevenvc19

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3x Edision Primo S2:
30W
5W
0.8W
4.3E
9E
13E
19.2E
28.2E
My Location
Willebroek Belgium
Italy beam reception in the Netherlands with 1.2 m:
12226 V (Nordic beam) is OK
12265 V (Italy beam) is OK
12341 V (Italy beam) no lock with 8.5 dB, need 1 dB more
12466 V (Italy beam) no lock with 6.4 dB, need 1.5 dB more
View attachment 128142
Where in the Netherlands are you located?
How much bigger does the dish needs to be to actually get 1.5dB/ 2dB more?
 
Adam792

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Dishes: 80cm (5°W/4.8°E), 80cm (30°W), 60cm Zone 2 (13°E/19.2°E/28.2°E)
Receivers: HTPC (Intel i3 processor, nVidia Graphics, and TBS6905 4x DVB-S2 PCIe tuner card) running Ubuntu with Kodi/TVHeadend, Wetek Play2, Skybox M3.
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Ive read something recently saying most of the RAI HD channels will be going fta soon - just encrypting the usual restricted programmes
That would make sense as a replacement for the SD ones on 10992 that currently do the same. They’re widely carried by cable/IPTV providers across Europe (with the blackouts) so they’ll most likely want to keep that functionality into the future!
 
hvdh

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@Stevenvc19 , location is in the Crazyscan.
Cross-polarization interference from strong H transponders (Greece & Germany beams) seems to be the issue with 12341 V and 12466 V, not dish size.
I have to point very accurately for these two.
 
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Stevenvc19

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My Satellite Setup
3x Edision Primo S2:
30W
5W
0.8W
4.3E
9E
13E
19.2E
28.2E
My Location
Willebroek Belgium
@Stevenvc19 , location is in the Crazyscan.
Cross-polarization interference from strong H transponders (Greece & Germany beams) seems to be the issue with 12341 V and 12466 V, not dish size.
I have to point very accurately for these two.
I am located near Brussels so maybe I have a little less interference from the Northern beam. So that was why I am wondering if it could be possible to get that 1dB more
 
stephan94

stephan94

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My Satellite Setup
1.20 Channel master ( Paris)and 1200 Laminas ( Bavaria) KU and C Band
Openbox SX6 and S3 Mini, Dr HD 15, Octagon SF 4008 and Octagon SX88and SX8 HD One, TBS 6983
My Location
Bavaria and Paris
From north bavaria with 1,20m 9.0E-RFScan.png
 
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