EXPRESS 40 EAST (mpeg 4)

[SatSearcher]

Well i've tried everything to get this to scan in, but no luck! Tried scanning it in both DVB-S and DVB-S2 mode. I get a signal strength of 40% but can't lock it. I know my receiver can handle the symbol rate (i can get the package on 53E that uses 44950), i'm now putting it down to a weak signal with a high FEC (7/8), i normally need around 50% signal to lock up FEC's of 7/8

 

[Rob]

Just checked on King of Sat and it seems that these Russian channels are no longer HD and do not require MPEG4, can someone else check just in case I'm losing my marballs.

Rossiya TV Russia General RSCC Clear 1 521 640 rus
641 261 521 2007-01-19 +
Rossiya TV (+8h) Russia General RSCC Clear 2 522 645 rus
646 262 522 2007-01-19 +
Rossiya TV (+2h) Russia General RSCC Clear 3 523 650 rus
651 263 523 2007-01-19 +
Rossiya TV (+4h) Russia General RSCC Clear 4 524 655 rus
656 264 524 2007-01-19 +
Rossiya TV (+6h) Russia General RSCC Clear 5 525 660 rus
661 265 525 2007-01-19 +
RTR Planeta Russia General RSCC Clear 6 526 665 rus
666 266 526 2007-01-19 +
Kultura TV Russia Cultural RSCC Clear 7 527 670 rus
671 267 527 2007-01-19 +
STS Moldova General RSCC Clear 8 528 675 rus
676 268 528 2007-01-24 +
Domashniy Russia General RSCC Clear 9 529 680 rus
681 269 529 2007-01-24 +
Kultura TV (+10h) Russia Cultural RSCC Clear 10 530 685 rus
686 270 530 2007-01-19 +
Perviy Kanal Russia General RSCC Clear 11 531 690 rus 271 531 591 2007-01-19 +
7 TV Russia Sport RSCC Clear 12 532 695 rus
696 272 532 592 2007-01-19 +
Perviy Kanal Russia General RSCC Clear 13 533 700 rus
701 273 533 593 2007-01-19 +
Muz TV Russia Music RSCC Clear 14 534 705 rus
706 274 534 2007-01-19 +
Vesti Russia News RSCC Clear 15 535 710 rus
711 275 535 595 2007-01-24 +
Perviy Kanal Russia General RSCC Clear 16 536 715 rus
716 276 536 596 2007-01-19 +
STS Moldova General RSCC Clear 17 537 720 rus
721 277 537 2007-01-19 +
NTV Russia Russia General RSCC Clear 18 538 725 rus
726 278 538 2007-01-24 +
TNV Russia Russia General RSCC Clear 19 539 730 rus
731 279 539 2007-01-19 +
HD Test Belgium Presentations Clear 20 540 735 33 540 2007-01-19 +
Radio Mayak Clear 81 691 281 691 2007-01-19
Radio Kultura Clear 92 686 257 686 2007-01-19
SMR101 RSCC Clear 21 37 8191 2007-01-20
Express AM1 (40.0E) - 11044.00 H - Txp:B3 - Beam:Europe DVB-S (QPSK) - 40000 5/6 - NID:0

Mind you still can't receive them. :-Nooo

 

[delboyt46]

DS810XE is specified as follows:
DVB-S: 1 ~ 45 Msymbols/s
DVB-S2: 10 ~ 30 Msymbols/s

Pace think that these channels are DVB-S on Express AM1

 

[remlap]

Why should it think its DVB-S When it is.

 

[katkins]

This is all very confusing! I am also frustrated that I am not able to pick up the Russian Channels at 40 East. I thought I was alone, but now I have found this thread, I can see that I am in good company.

It would appear to me that the broadcasters are using a hybrid system - MPEG4 normally goes with DVB-S2 for HD. This seems to be using MPEG4 with DVB or DVB-S.

I assume that the HDCI-2000 will not pick up MPEG4 unless it is in DVB-S2 mode ...?? Is that right? Is this the reason why the receiver will not recognise the signal? It should be able to tune to the symbol rate in DVB-S.

Has anyone had any success at all in receiving these channels? Do you think it is possible to "fool" the receiver into tuning to them if the channel list is downloaded into receiver using a client such as "formula"?

Many thanks

 

[ttalex]

It was possible to receive Russian channels with high SR 44950 with Fergusson 8800 and Homecast 5101.
Now they have moved to different transponders - 44967V 20000 3/4 (very weak signal) and 44995V 20000 3/4 that makes it possible to receive them with about any MPEG4 capable receiver. Both are still DVB-S!
I guess with 1m50 dish it is possible to get both in the UK though good 1m20 may actually work too!

Best regards,

Alexander

 

[Lancelot]

Signal is there alright, just needs another 5-10% or so to get a picture
This 'European beam' footprint is nothing like what's actually there.
Will have another look this evening.


L.

 

[Turok]

Hi!
here,in Austria,i have pointed i singel 1,50 M Irte Fullsize Dish,in my garden,for this transponder!

now,the transponder,has more channels,on it,hd tv promo is switched of,when the starts,not so many channels was on it,and signal was stronger,now it is splitted,and signal,is weker now 1,50 m ,is the minnimum size,here,works every thing perfekt with my homecast hs 5101 that has very sensitive tuner!

but,you must point your dish,very exactly,need over an half hour,for this transponder,esapsely the scew tilt of lnb,same problem,then on the turkey east beam,that i can catch,with my 2,20m,tagra dish,since 3 days,picutres will follow this days!
hellas east beam,also very low,since simbolrate change,of the package,can you reveive it in uk?

 

[Turok]

1.20 m,is not enough,and also the gregory,i have interruptions!
1,50m okay!

 

[mattjhjjones]

Hi,

Has anybody experience of picking up the MPEG4 russian channels at 40 degrees east.Are they available in the UK? with a small dish under 1m? And which receiver can pick them up? Are they FTA MPEG 4?

Any help appreciated.

Delboyt

I have tried a 1.2 mtr dish and a 0.1nf lnb but no joy all i can get is Uzbek TV and no russian channels.

Help !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Matt

 

[Analoguesat]

You already have the answer in post 29 - bigger dish required

 

[mattjhjjones]

Thanks

Any idea how big?

In London area

 

[Analoguesat]

Turok is in Austria, so start thinking at around 1.8m - although it could be bigger

 

[BombedOne]

Even while being in the official coverage area of that sat, I can receive only 10995V (and signal strength not so great) using 1m dish now. 2 years ago I was able to receive both of these mpeg4 TPs with better strength using 90cm dish.

 

[sergueiXXX]

I was dreaming to get the channels from this setellite as well.
I had 90x105cm dish that shows up to 49% quality on MPEG4 encoded channels.
Sometime I could even see images from this programs.
I replaced dish with slightly bigger dish 105x115cm and it still stays the same below 49% quality.
Is the next step to buy much bigger dish?
Does somebody here had any luck with this satellite?
I could see 3 or 4 progrmas from this satellite which are MPEG2 but as soon as it is MPEG4 thn the quality becomes low. Is that because of encoding or transponder are weak(in that case why different programs from different transponders work OK in MPEG4)?

 

[BombedOne]

No.

The channels sent in MPEG4 are from some premium package, not available FTA elsewhere, so power of them is reduced deliberately, to avoid copyright issues.

 

[zorbua]

I just saw this thread today (didn't notice at first that it was started way back in 2007) anyway I entered these two Freqs (10967 V & 10994 V) in my Dreambox with a 1.2 M Dish and I got these channels quite well albeit with a low signal level of 32/33 SNR. Now my location is in Malta... and I don't know if these Channels will stay ok during the whole day....because there were instances where Channels with a low Signal Level will fade in the evening or vice - versa. These two freqs carry channels like: TELENYANYA, RFL SPORTS,HOME, KULTURA, DOM KINO, DUBL-4, GROSNY, 5 KANAL, 1 MUZ,MIR, Etc Etc Etc.

 

[zorbua]

Futher Info.... up to now these channels are ok......BTW Channel Orbita-4, and Kanal 1 are screening King Kong (Latest one)

 

[J700]

1,3m dish with inverto LNB in 21E 63N Finland. Ipbox 900hd with conexant tuner.
Manual scan of 10995MHz on pos. 40'E gives 15 channels.
MuzTV, TNV, Home, TV Centr,RTR Sport, 5 Kanal, Mayak, Radio Rossii, Radio Vesti-FM, Novy Vek etc.. All loud & clear. BER 0.

 

[zorbua]

Still ok....Audio mostly Russian.