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<blockquote data-quote="Rob" data-source="post: 360947" data-attributes="member: 176677"><p>Read this on a forum and found it interesting so I "nicked" it as the writer puts his case a lot better than I can.</p><p></p><p>it was interesting to see the co founder of Green peace stating when when did polution from cars and power stations get muddled with global warming?? </p><p></p><p>Also it was very interesting that from ice core samples going back to the last ice age (just over 10,000 years ago) there was actualy more CO2 in the atmosphere than there is now. from my history books i dont remember the combsution engine and the industrial age starting then? let alone coal, gas or oil being burnt. </p><p></p><p>Also you need CO2 in the atmosphere. without it we would be in a permanent iceage ie the suns rays would bounce back out into space. CO2 makes this planet habitable!!</p><p></p><p>i note another very interesting fact on global warming. </p><p></p><p>Many millions of years back when dinosaurs inhabited the earth. have a guess where some of them lived?? </p><p></p><p>Antartica!</p><p></p><p>Proof we live in a much colder climate now. </p><p></p><p>Also we are told that sea levels will rise. yes but it was made quite clear that this could take hundreds of years. remember the sea is warm for only a few metres at the surface where sun penetrates. in the depths it is icy cold. </p><p></p><p>other cuplrites we are told is the sea itself!! </p><p></p><p>Oh and how did the sun escape not being a culprit!!</p><p></p><p>I have an "O" level in Environmental Studies. Yes we touched on global warming in the 80's. However the main concern was what burning fossil fuels had on the environment. remember acid rain?</p><p></p><p>It would seem some of the comentators passing themseveles as scientists who have predicted doom and gloom for mankind have not a clue on how the climate actually works!!!</p><p></p><p>The UK Government report was not even written by an expert in climate change!</p><p></p><p>Methinks El Presidente Tony Blair asked a civil servant to think of a way to rake in extra taxes. </p><p></p><p>Interesting anyone remember a film called "The day after tomorrow"? What did it predict?? </p><p></p><p>The next ice age. </p><p></p><p>In the seventies we were being told that a next ice age is over due and that there are signs it is about to start. </p><p></p><p>Perhaps this is a precursor to it?? </p><p></p><p>There is also an important thung we need to look. I refer back to my "O" level . Interestingly we were told that oil wells would run dry at the end of 2020. For such a small period of time this cannot have had such an inpact on the earths climate. if anything CO2 emissions will fall. </p><p></p><p>After 2020 what will be the next scam from government??</p><p></p><p>I also refer back to a posting i made earlier in feb. </p><p></p><p>during medievil time grapes were grown as far as Durham. What followed this global warming then?? </p><p></p><p>A mini ice age!</p><p></p><p>get your woolies out!</p><p></p><p>interstingly there is more ice forming at both poles than at anytime in history. this does not equat with global warming. </p><p></p><p>it even seems alughable where are told that the glaciers in both poles are melting. yes they have been ever since they formed! it is in their nature to do so. what do big chunks fall from them in the first place?? er gravity! ie the ice at the top of the glacier places force to move the ice downwards. simple as that! </p><p></p><p>the comment made about the scientists who appear on the international panel on climate change in the C4 program. the scientists involved sued to have their names removed from the report. of course they will sit on teh panel they need to put their point across. when tey put therei point across it was doctored to make it look like we are in a meltdown over global warming. </p><p></p><p>what we need is an informed inteligent debate on what is going on. </p><p></p><p>what we dont need is being silenced on actually what is happening. </p><p></p><p>A present the excuse that CO2 is the culprit is not based on scientific fact. </p><p></p><p>i have no problem with buying products that do not harm or poison the environmnt that has to be good for us all in the long run. </p><p></p><p>But to be taxed for no reason at all is down right outrageous and an affront to democracy!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rob, post: 360947, member: 176677"] Read this on a forum and found it interesting so I "nicked" it as the writer puts his case a lot better than I can. it was interesting to see the co founder of Green peace stating when when did polution from cars and power stations get muddled with global warming?? Also it was very interesting that from ice core samples going back to the last ice age (just over 10,000 years ago) there was actualy more CO2 in the atmosphere than there is now. from my history books i dont remember the combsution engine and the industrial age starting then? let alone coal, gas or oil being burnt. Also you need CO2 in the atmosphere. without it we would be in a permanent iceage ie the suns rays would bounce back out into space. CO2 makes this planet habitable!! i note another very interesting fact on global warming. Many millions of years back when dinosaurs inhabited the earth. have a guess where some of them lived?? Antartica! Proof we live in a much colder climate now. Also we are told that sea levels will rise. yes but it was made quite clear that this could take hundreds of years. remember the sea is warm for only a few metres at the surface where sun penetrates. in the depths it is icy cold. other cuplrites we are told is the sea itself!! Oh and how did the sun escape not being a culprit!! I have an "O" level in Environmental Studies. Yes we touched on global warming in the 80's. However the main concern was what burning fossil fuels had on the environment. remember acid rain? It would seem some of the comentators passing themseveles as scientists who have predicted doom and gloom for mankind have not a clue on how the climate actually works!!! The UK Government report was not even written by an expert in climate change! Methinks El Presidente Tony Blair asked a civil servant to think of a way to rake in extra taxes. Interesting anyone remember a film called "The day after tomorrow"? What did it predict?? The next ice age. In the seventies we were being told that a next ice age is over due and that there are signs it is about to start. Perhaps this is a precursor to it?? There is also an important thung we need to look. I refer back to my "O" level . Interestingly we were told that oil wells would run dry at the end of 2020. For such a small period of time this cannot have had such an inpact on the earths climate. if anything CO2 emissions will fall. After 2020 what will be the next scam from government?? I also refer back to a posting i made earlier in feb. during medievil time grapes were grown as far as Durham. What followed this global warming then?? A mini ice age! get your woolies out! interstingly there is more ice forming at both poles than at anytime in history. this does not equat with global warming. it even seems alughable where are told that the glaciers in both poles are melting. yes they have been ever since they formed! it is in their nature to do so. what do big chunks fall from them in the first place?? er gravity! ie the ice at the top of the glacier places force to move the ice downwards. simple as that! the comment made about the scientists who appear on the international panel on climate change in the C4 program. the scientists involved sued to have their names removed from the report. of course they will sit on teh panel they need to put their point across. when tey put therei point across it was doctored to make it look like we are in a meltdown over global warming. what we need is an informed inteligent debate on what is going on. what we dont need is being silenced on actually what is happening. A present the excuse that CO2 is the culprit is not based on scientific fact. i have no problem with buying products that do not harm or poison the environmnt that has to be good for us all in the long run. But to be taxed for no reason at all is down right outrageous and an affront to democracy! [/QUOTE]
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