Google, The Next Dark Empire?

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Google, The Next Dark Empire?

Google, a name synonymous with Internet searching, is now permeating the desktop. Currently it's the PC (i.e. Windows environment) they're moving into, but Apple Macs and even Linux are the likely next moves.

Microsoft (MS) has traditionally owned the operating system (OS) and many of the applications, but Google's new tools allow searching in that space without having to directly access any of the aging empire's software directly.

Google Desktop Search

The newest version (2) has the option of a sidebar or deskbar and searches can be entered directly into these. It also installs a search bar into Outlook. It's possible to directly search items using these without ever going through the Windows "Start" menu. Whereas MS has had tools such as Lookout (actually produced by another company, which MS bought) which allowed searching in Outlook, it's no longer needed as Google does a better job and searches more file types.

There are potential privacy concerns as Google will search Email, Chats, Web history, Media files, Text, Word, Excel, PowerPoint, PDF, Contacts, Calendar, Tasks, Notes, Journal and other files and send relevant info back to Google, however that can be turned off.

Once Desktop is started it sits there a while locally indexing the info and then searches are very fast, new files are indexed as they are created or arrive etc.

Google Talk

Though Google Desktop (ableit in an more limited form) has been around for a while, Google Talk is new and is their take on the Instant Messaging world.

The client is quite basic, it currently supports simple chat and voice. You need a Google Mail login to use the service (GMail accounts now support 2.5GB as standard) and it can check your GMail inbox. Chats can now be logged into the Google Mail system.

The voice quality is superb, Google have licensed some pretty good codecs (the software that translates analogue voice into digital form or vice versa) and it's as good as Skype if not better.

Google Talk actually uses the XMPP open protocol (better known as Jabber) so any Jabber client can be used with Google's server (including Gaim for various platforms and Apple's iChat for Macs), though voice functionality is currently only available with their own client. However, that's about to change as Google have released 'libjingle' a programming library which implements their voice services so others can incorporate them into their IM clients.

Jabber allows server connectivity to other networks and sure enough Google have just enabled this feature, so Google users can chat with Jabber users on other Jabber networks (if the other network connects).

Since the client is only v1, new functionality will be added as time passes, one can only wonder what but it's likely they'll be some form of search capabilities, maybe even adwords based on the conversations that are taking place.

Jabber itself has a lot more to offer itself, like conference rooms, which Google are sure to implement.

Google Mail

Another service that's been around for a while (and again sparked heated privacy debates) Google Mail or GMail now offers 2.5GB of mail storage. The premise is you never delete mail, but just keep everything. All mail arrives in your INBOX, but then it can be sorted using various criteria and moved to various folders.

This concept isn't new, DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation, now long gone) had this idea with their Altavista mail service, whereby all mail arrived in your INBOX and the client just put everything in the right place. Google just got it right and made it a Web service.

Some people will use all their space, but many struggle to use even a small percentage of it. An enterprising developer has made an application that allows Windows XP users to utilise it as a remote file store with drag and drop capabilities. There's no guarantee it will keep working as Google can alter their systems at anytime. There's a link at the end of the article.

Regards Satdude. :-rofl2
 

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Gmail is great so versatile and being developed all the time. I'm up to 2.7gig but only use 17%

Google have a browser based word processing application and 3D drawing program - with more to come.

Dell have signed an agreement to install their software on all their computers.

It's the future of computing and the internet. See previous post on Google buying up dark fibre.

Competition is good...
 

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It's by far the best search engine, in my experience.

So, now they want to "move into" our PC's?

They're becomming the computing equivalent of Tesco (maybe Microsoft is Sainsburys?).
 

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Google are about to launch a web based spreadsheet application...

Excel basher? Sign up here...

_http://www.google.com/googlespreadsheets/tour1.html
 

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What are your experiences with GMail?

I read Google's blurb about how happy customers were about so little spam and decided to give it a go. My wife was already using it so she invited me and I got registered. She gets plenty of spam, but then she keeps giving her address to greetings cards web sites and the like, so what does she expect? Two days later I got my first spam. Since neither my wife nor I had given my address to anyone, and I had not even sent a single e-mail, I think it means that Google is wide open to hackers, probably on the inside.

So how secure is my account and any data that I might store there? I suspect that more or less any technician on a night shift at google can monitor pretty much whatever he likes. If someone has already lifted my address then it seems quite plausable that they can equally easily read messages that I send to my bank. I had been tempted by a piece of software that makes your 2GB of free storage at Gmail behave as a virtual disk drive, so that you can store anything you like there. No thank you!

I once worked as a network support engineer at a famous oil company - the managers would have been surprised if they knew that I could see their user names and passwords in clear as they logged on to foreign sites dealing with diamond mines and the like when I connected my datacomms analysis equipent to a packet switch. At the time British Telecom were using the same technology for their public packet switch service, PSS. And they used to say that they were secure too!
 

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I don't seem to get any spam on mine, but then I don't use it much.
 

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If your username is a real name (eg jacksmith) you will probably get spam even if you never use the account, adding numbers to the end doesn't help much.

I once got my first name (at)lycos.com – before I used that address for anything there was 50 spam messages (in a day or so).

This isn't because of poor security, just simple names and short strings will be mass mailed in the hope that they exist and people will reply.

I've always found gMails spam blocker quite good, the occasional thing gets through it, however I don't think its ever picked up a proper message as spam (that I've noticed anyway).
 
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