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HD signals with Dragon CAM

Hitchcock

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OK, this may sound naive, but can the Dragon CAM also decrypt the new High Def signals from $ky (using a valid subscription card, of course)?

I know it's a different transport stream, i.e. DVB-S2/MPEG 4 instead of DVB-S/MPEG 2, but I thought maybe the encryption layer (N*S Video*uard) would be the same (I think I read somewhere on the DigitalSpy or AV forums that people will be able to continue to use their existing viewing cards in their new $ky HD boxes) ...

And what about other HD services out there (e.g. Premiere)? Can the Dragon also decrypt those?
 

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Your receiver or set-top-box should have the capability to handle HD signals. The CAMs and cards have nothing to do with signals, I believe.
 
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I have the Humax PR-HD1000 (as per Premiere HD but no subscription) plus a Dragon CAM, so I am definitely interested in what can be achieved. I also have a motorised dish, so not dependent on Astra 2 etc.

Any "pointers" to decoding other HD sources greatly appreciated!

TIA

Tony B
 

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hi tony, have you looked at lyngsat ? they list what high def stuff can be picked up on varoius sats, same with kingofsat .:)
as for trying 4.2.2 feeds look on satelliweb
 
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tigertimtim said:
hi tony, have you looked at lyngsat ? they list what high def stuff can be picked up on varoius sats, same with kingofsat .:)
as for trying 4.2.2 feeds look on satelliweb
Oh, yes - I have spent many happy hours trawling through the info on lyngsat, but, as far as I can tell, the only encrypted HD stuff is on Premiere, Euro 1080/HD1/HD2, and TPS HD. I really would like to see Premiere HD, less worried about HD1/HD2 especially as their subscription is quite cheap too - Euro 120 for 5 years, whereas Premiere is a lot more and not officially available in the UK.

Has anyone managed to get into an encrypted HD channel yet (without the appropriate card)?
 

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Jaffer said:
Your receiver or set-top-box should have the capability to handle HD signals. The CAMs and cards have nothing to do with signals, I believe.
What you're saying then is that the encryption itself is not tied to any specific transmission format (DVB-S, DVB-S2, DSS, MPEG 2, MPEG 4, [email protected], [email protected] and so forth), so whether a signal is SD or HD or any other resolution or format is irrelevant to the decyphering of a signal?

So, for example, a $ky card inside a normal Dragon CAM inside a Humax PR-HD1000 (High Def receiver), would have no problem decrypting the new $ky HD signals (e.g. Discovery HD, Nat Geo HD) as well the normal $ky SD signals?
 

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[email protected] problem is at the moment with not many high def channels yet is that there isnt a hack for any yet,
preimere's high def channels are a different encryption system to the normal sd channels on preimere which are open,
same with tps when they fully start there high def channels , there are going to be in viacess 2.6 which isnt cracked, we will only know fully what does what untill some high def channels become hacked.
i would imagine a dragon cam would do the job as its only dealing with the encryption side of things, as long as you have a mpeg 4 reciever of course,
its all exciting stuff , cant wait till i get my mpeg 4 reciever , i think i will wait for technomates release in september as the patches (to open things) will work on them. :)