How to enter legitmate BISS key?

dankargo

dankargo

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I have been given a legitmate BISS key to view a feed but its the first time I've ever attempted to on my Vu+Zero box which runs Enigma2.

To construct a line in my Constant.cw file, I need to find out the Video PIDs but for the life of me I can't recall how to do it - as its something I've not done in a good while.

I will not post the key obviously but how would I go about converting these values? I briefly recall having to use a decimal to hex converter in the past.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

1_0_1_753E_1_FFFF_46B19F_0_0_0.webp
 
You have all the info you require there. 3140 Dec is c44 Hex!
 
Analoguesat said:
You have all the info you require there. 3140 Dec is c44 Hex!
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Thanks AnalogueSat, still no success though :(

I've been entering in this format - is this correct?

2600:000000:753E:013A:0C44:: (followed by CW)
 
Its been a long time since Ive played with these but looking at another forum on a 5 year old thread the data looks like this for this particular example

2600:000000:17DE:17DE:1FFF::{key entered twice}

where
caid 2600
Prov ID 000000
SID 17DE
PMT 17DE
ECM 1FFF
 
Analoguesat said:
Its been a long time since Ive played with these but looking at another forum on a 5 year old thread the data looks like this for this particular example

2600:000000:17DE:17DE:1FFF::{key entered twice}

where
caid 2600
Prov ID 000000
SID 17DE
PMT 17DE
ECM 1FFF
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Thanks AnalogueSat, unfortunately still isn't working. I'm wondering if its simply my box not picking it up.
 
dankargo said:
Thanks AnalogueSat, unfortunately still isn't working. I'm wondering if its simply my box not picking it up.
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Have you checked to see if the feed you wish to view is 4:2:0 or 4:2:2 video format?
If it is 4:2:2 format you will not clear the picture with a Vu Zero even if you do have the BISS cw.

Rgds
 
Please DONT post anything even with fake hex keys in it on this forum. Ive deleted one post that contained such a false key. The forum rules are very clear on this matter - no keys of any kind.
 
For the future reference and hopefully fully compliant with the forum rules. I used xx's and yy's to represent the CW keys, but they are not keys or even fake keys, as keys are in hex.

my template is where xx marks the would be odd (first 8 xx's or bytes) and even ( last 8 yy's or bytes) control word key in HEX, the biss key including checksum should be 8 bytes and you put it in twice so your xx's and yy's should be the same key,

CAID: PROVIDER : SID: PMT: ECMPID : VPID: xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx yy yy yy yy yy yy yy yy

dankargo said:
Thanks AnalogueSat, still no success though :(

I've been entering in this format - is this correct?

2600:000000:753E:013A:0C44:: (followed by CW)
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was close but not quite
2600:000000:753E:013A:1FFF:0C44: (followed by CW) would of worked

This would of worked too
2600:000000:753E::1FFF:: xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx yy yy yy yy yy yy yy yy

If you leave out say the vpid or PMT it no longer matters what they are and the emulator will use the key as long as the rest of the info is a match. You can leave out the info you don't know. the more keys you have, the better it is to have more info entered so that key only gets used by the service it's intended for it not always possible and you may have to remove keys to use other keys. Many feed parameters are very similar.
 
Ragnarok said:
For the future reference and hopefully fully compliant with the forum rules. I used xx's and yy's to represent the CW keys, but they are not keys or even fake keys, as keys are in hex.

my template is where xx marks the would be odd (first 8 xx's or bytes) and even ( last 8 yy's or bytes) control word key in HEX, the biss key including checksum should be 8 bytes and you put it in twice so your xx's and yy's should be the same key,

CAID: PROVIDER : SID: PMT: ECMPID : VPID: xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx yy yy yy yy yy yy yy yy


was close but not quite
2600:000000:753E:013A:1FFF:0C44: (followed by CW) would of worked

This would of worked too
2600:000000:753E::1FFF:: xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx yy yy yy yy yy yy yy yy

If you leave out say the vpid or PMT it no longer matters what they are and the emulator will use the key as long as the rest of the info is a match. You can leave out the info you don't know. the more keys you have, the better it is to have more info entered so that key only gets used by the service it's intended for it not always possible and you may have to remove keys to use other keys. Many feed parameters are very similar.
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This helped so much in getting to grips with it, thank you immensely!
 
how would same be for dreambox
???? ???? xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx yy yy yy yy yy yy yy yy
 
We are talking about the format of constant cw file in the likes of for EMU's, it's the same format for that file on a dreambox.

but you can replace the xx's and yy's with keys if and when you know them.

Each xx or yy is a byte so in hexadecimal that would be a value between 00-ff in hex.
 
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