Advice Needed How to reduce delay

[Loptica123]

Hello, i have a question. I live outside of UK, I have a satellite receiver in my flat and I want to watch football matches in as real time as possible. My signal is obviously delayed quite a bit, comparing the time in the upper left corner with the actual time of the live game, the picture delay after the real match is 15 seconds. I would like to know what the delay is in your country in UK, if you have an original Sky sport receiver? Can you check that for me? The simplest way to check this is if you go to a bookmaker like bet365 or similar and go to IN PLAY matches and compare the time that is written on the bookmaker for that match with the time that is written on the picture on the TV (most matches have the time in the upper left corner). For me right now the Girona - Real match is 15 seconds late, which is a lot, I think a couple of seconds is appropriate. Thanks.

 

[ozumo]

How do you know the bookmaker's timer is correct unless you are actually at the event? FWIW on Sky HD Tottenham vs Chelsea is two seconds behind Bet365.

 

[Loptica123]

Okay, thank you very much on that information. I have been on like one hundred games of my footbal club and every time is the same time at bet365 and in live match on stadium. So I have one more question for you, if you are from England can you also check some game from spain or some other league and tell me if it is also 2 seconds or it is higher?

 

[Analoguesat]

There will always be delays from real time. Some of these will be

uplink
downlink
framestores
encoding at the uplink centre
decoding at the receiver
encryption addition & deletion
if the game is on more than one satellite hop then some of these will be doubled.

There will ALSO be differences caused by how the channels are statmuxed (statistical multiplexing) onto the transponder - for example if you watch a transponder with say BBC1 on it & flick up & down the channels some of the output will be delayed compared to others. This is because you cant have say 10 channels all showing exactly the same output where there is high bitrate demand (eg a football match) Therefore the output of the channels is staggered over a few seconds to smear the peak demand bit rates.

 

[Loptica123]

Okay thanks, but I want to know if you are in England can you just check this game atletico madrid and sevilla if you have original Sky reciver is it also 2 seconds or it is higher, thanks a lot for this previous information

 

[Analoguesat]

For what its worth I have seen so called live events delayed by 2 or 3 MINUTES on different channels in the past!

 

[Loptica123]

How do you know the bookmaker's timer is correct unless you are actually at the event? FWIW on Sky HD Tottenham vs Chelsea is two seconds behind Bet365.

Hi, can you maybe record me this and send video of that two seconds behind on some other game (you can put laptop with bet365 next to TV where is the game). I can pay you something...

 

[Loptica123]

Can you also send me some others satelite forums where I can ask this things that I am interested. Thanks

 

[ozumo]

Hi, can you maybe record me this and send video of that two seconds behind on some other game (you can put laptop with bet365 next to TV where is the game). I can pay you something...

Sorry I no longer have an active Sky subscription.

Can you also send me some others satelite forums where I can ask this things that I am interested. Thanks

Try an internet search engine.

 

[Analoguesat]

We have had DOZENS of requests for as live betting help over the years. Some of which promised large amounts of money in exchange for our help.

None of these promises ever came to anything so excuse us if we are somewhat cynical of requests for help with as live betting.

 

[Loptica123]

Hello, I understand that you are outraged by people who come and ask for advice, say they will pay and pay nothing to anyone.
I don't understand satellites, feeds, antennas, but I do understand live sports betting. I don't need, like everyone else, for my picture to go faster than the sportsbook, I don't want to play that to squeeze a bet before the bookmaker has updated it, I think it's a utopia for anyone who asks for something like that and promises to pay because it's an impossible mission.

I need to have a live broadcast that is up to 2, 3 or even 4 seconds behind the actual event. I'm interested in how I can achieve this and I'm only interested in one sport that is often on satellites.

I'm curious whether the least possible delay has to be with feeds or can I buy original receivers of all satellite channels (like Sky) and install those channels on multiple televisions.
For example, if I come to live in England, will Sky be faster for me than in my country, can I get my delay to be up to 4 seconds if I have the original Sky or do I still have to use feeds?

It would take me years and years to understand satellites and satellite equipment well, just like it would take someone years to come up with the idea I came up with in live betting, so I'm just curious if there is a person who wants to team up with me and combine their knowledge of satellites with my excellent idea for which I need broadcasts of that sport up to 4 seconds.

 

[Channel Hopper]

Satellite broadcasts, including feeds owing to basic physics will have a delay, the speed of light

There are others of course in the transmission link, components in the video conversion circuits will have their own coefficient of transfer loss and these will be hampered by the requirements of catchup with the audio to keep things in sync. Similar things occur in terrestrial and cable feeds of course, but it is known that 'ping' can be minimised by moving closer to the service provider hub and using a decent setup with matching router/computer.

Best thing you can do is to go to the match as a supporter since there will be the shortest delay from pitch to the stands.