Ka-Band Satellites

Chris1979

Live Long and Prosper
Staff member
Messages
8,308
Likes
6,723
My Satellite Setup
Gibertini 1.5, TD88 Clone, Gibertini 1.25 & Sky Mini Dish.

Fixed Lnb’s on 19.2°E,13°E,9°E,5°E, 1.0°W & 5°W connected to Mutant HD51 + TBS6522, TBS6983.

Dr HD D15, TM5302, Vu Duo connected to Plex.
My Location
South Somerset.
#1
Can we try and make a list of satellites that have Ka-bands transmitting.

Astra 19.2e
Hylas 2 31.0e
 

timo_w2s

A Moderator
Staff member
Messages
4,360
Likes
2,884
My Satellite Setup
See Signature
My Location
Maidenhead, UK & Helsinki, Finland
#2
One rather obvious one you missed...

Eutelsat Ka-Sat 9E. ;)

Astra 2E 28.3E
Astra 2F 28.2E
Astra 2G (when at 28E)

Soon to be launched:

Thor 7 1W
 

timo_w2s

A Moderator
Staff member
Messages
4,360
Likes
2,884
My Satellite Setup
See Signature
My Location
Maidenhead, UK & Helsinki, Finland
#3
Eutelsat 16A 16E
Eutelsat 7A 7E
Eutelsat 7B 7E
 

Chris1979

Live Long and Prosper
Staff member
Messages
8,308
Likes
6,723
My Satellite Setup
Gibertini 1.5, TD88 Clone, Gibertini 1.25 & Sky Mini Dish.

Fixed Lnb’s on 19.2°E,13°E,9°E,5°E, 1.0°W & 5°W connected to Mutant HD51 + TBS6522, TBS6983.

Dr HD D15, TM5302, Vu Duo connected to Plex.
My Location
South Somerset.
#4
30.0w hispasat
33.5w Hylas
42.0E turksat
 

uhf-satcom.com

Regular Member
Messages
15
Likes
63
Location
Poole, Dorset, UK
My Satellite Setup
UHF to Ka coverage; 1.1MKu 60E-50W , 1.5M L-Band 15W, 1.8M & 2.4M prime movers.
My Location
Dorset, UK
#5
Hi all,

Here is my list, slowly updating it;

72.5EUFO F-10
20295 Transponder
20415 Transponder
20475 Transponder
20595 Transponder
20700 Beacon

60E WGS 2
20700.000 Beacon, TT&C on +-1024kHz of centre, carriers +- 2048 kHz of centre
20847.275 Multiple Carriers, poss. ranging tones
20870.705 Multiple Carriers, poss. ranging tones

51E Yahsat 1A
20201 Carrier
20202 Carrier
20390 QPSK data 27MHz wide

47.7E PAN 35815
17.810014 TT&C
20298 Carrier
20402 Carrier
20700 Carrier
21102 Carrier
Note: This satellite transmits some massively wideband data which appears as a huge lump of noise

47E Syracuse 3A
20245 Carrier
20870 OQPSK 2500Ksym
21083 FHSS OQPSK 8MHz wide

44E Mentor-4
17810.065 TT&C

37.8E Athena-Fidus
18705 QPSK - 10000Ks/s DVB-S2
18790 QPSK
20171 RCS type traffic
20200 Beacon

30E Milstar 5
20700 carrier

23.5E Astra 3B
20199 V Carrier 28 dBW average EIRP

22E Sicral 1
20250 Beacon + TTC
20899.750 Carrier
21041.750 PSK
21042.775 PSK 500KHz wide
21093.275 UHF TPX loop - Downlink from 293.275MHz uplink
21108.175 UHF TPX loop - Downlink from 308.175MHz uplink

20E SBIRS GEO2
20250MHz BPSK 2Mbps Encrapted.

13E Hotbird-6
19700.982 Beacon
19729.18 Transponder
19748 Transponder
19748.36 Transponder
19825.08 Transponder
19842 Transponder
19844.26 Transponder

11.6E Sicral 1B
20250 Beacon + TTC
20535 DVB-IP data 8682Ksym, FEC 1/2 - Network Name: Selex EHF Beam.
20660.190 OQPSK 2000Ksym
20855 DVB data

9E KA-Sat
19995 QPSK
20120 QPSK
20185 QPSK 25031Ksym

7E Eutelsat-W3A
21404 Beacon
21462 Transponder
21448.35 QPSK 1724Ksym
21449.65 QPSK 1900Ksym
21539 QPSK 1714Ksym
21564 OQPSK 2857Ksym
21567 QPSK 714Ksym
21580.85 QPSK 2480Ksym
21586.5 QPSK 1860Ksym
21599.1 QPSK 1500Ksym
21587 Transponder

5.15W Syracuse-3B
20249.971 Beacon / continuous carrier
20762.375 200KHz wide PSK

12W WGS-3
20219 DVB data
20251.200 QPSK 1048Ksym
20310 DVB data
20700 Beacon, TT&C on +-1024kHz of centre, carriers +- 2048 kHz of centre
20735 DVB data
20780 DVB data
20829.396 QPSK 2048Ksym
20836.600 QPSK 2048Ksym
20838.425 QPSK 348Ksym
20843.120 QPSK 2079Ksym
20889.500 OQPSK 2500Ksym
20899.775 QPSK 1.2MHz wide
21097.27 Beacon
21161.500 QPSK 2.5MHz wide
21196.23 Beacon

22.5W QRT from 12:30z 31st August 2006
20699.994 Propagation Beacon + FHSS Modem (carriers +-203.5KHz)
20295 Transponder
20415 Transponder
20475 Transponder
20595 Transponder (DVB GBS downlink - CNN & Fox news)

Thats my lot, any updates our corrections would be appreciated;
 

hvdh

Specialist Contributor
Messages
1,871
Likes
2,760
My Satellite Setup
Dr.HD F16, TBS 6925, T-55, Laminas 120 cm
My Location
Oss, NL (5.5°E 51.8°N)
#6
That's nice, some things are new to me like Ka-band on Mentor-4.
I'll also make corrections and additions to my list, long ago you promised to have a look at it...
Positions: Yahsat-1A is 52.5°E not 51°E, Hot Bird 6 is Eutelsat 8WC now at 7.5°W not 13°E.
And according latest McCants TLE, Sicral 1B slightly moved to 12.0°E.
 

uhf-satcom.com

Regular Member
Messages
15
Likes
63
Location
Poole, Dorset, UK
My Satellite Setup
UHF to Ka coverage; 1.1MKu 60E-50W , 1.5M L-Band 15W, 1.8M & 2.4M prime movers.
My Location
Dorset, UK
#7
Re Mentor-4

I would really be interested if anyone can detect anything else besides the TT&C beacon. This is one of the satellites thats talking to the MOONPENNY ground station up at Menwith Hill, so there must be some 'product' coming down somewhere. I have checked C to Ka but have not found anything except this TT&C beacon (pic attached).
44e17810.jpg
I couldnt make a Ka LNB behave down at 17.8G so had to roll my own which was a bit painful but it worked. This unit is from an old microwave link and uses a sub harmonic mixer.
18g_conv.jpg

Thanks for the updates, I'll action that now on the list here and update the site shortly.
 

Chris1979

Live Long and Prosper
Staff member
Messages
8,308
Likes
6,723
My Satellite Setup
Gibertini 1.5, TD88 Clone, Gibertini 1.25 & Sky Mini Dish.

Fixed Lnb’s on 19.2°E,13°E,9°E,5°E, 1.0°W & 5°W connected to Mutant HD51 + TBS6522, TBS6983.

Dr HD D15, TM5302, Vu Duo connected to Plex.
My Location
South Somerset.
#8
Hi all,

Here is my list, slowly updating it;

72.5EUFO F-10
20295 Transponder
20415 Transponder
20475 Transponder
20595 Transponder
20700 Beacon

60E WGS 2
20700.000 Beacon, TT&C on +-1024kHz of centre, carriers +- 2048 kHz of centre
20847.275 Multiple Carriers, poss. ranging tones
20870.705 Multiple Carriers, poss. ranging tones

51E Yahsat 1A
20201 Carrier
20202 Carrier
20390 QPSK data 27MHz wide

47.7E PAN 35815
17.810014 TT&C
20298 Carrier
20402 Carrier
20700 Carrier
21102 Carrier
Note: This satellite transmits some massively wideband data which appears as a huge lump of noise

47E Syracuse 3A
20245 Carrier
20870 OQPSK 2500Ksym
21083 FHSS OQPSK 8MHz wide

44E Mentor-4
17810.065 TT&C

37.8E Athena-Fidus
18705 QPSK - 10000Ks/s DVB-S2
18790 QPSK
20171 RCS type traffic
20200 Beacon

30E Milstar 5
20700 carrier

23.5E Astra 3B
20199 V Carrier 28 dBW average EIRP

22E Sicral 1
20250 Beacon + TTC
20899.750 Carrier
21041.750 PSK
21042.775 PSK 500KHz wide
21093.275 UHF TPX loop - Downlink from 293.275MHz uplink
21108.175 UHF TPX loop - Downlink from 308.175MHz uplink

20E SBIRS GEO2
20250MHz BPSK 2Mbps Encrapted.

13E Hotbird-6
19700.982 Beacon
19729.18 Transponder
19748 Transponder
19748.36 Transponder
19825.08 Transponder
19842 Transponder
19844.26 Transponder

11.6E Sicral 1B
20250 Beacon + TTC
20535 DVB-IP data 8682Ksym, FEC 1/2 - Network Name: Selex EHF Beam.
20660.190 OQPSK 2000Ksym
20855 DVB data

9E KA-Sat
19995 QPSK
20120 QPSK
20185 QPSK 25031Ksym

7E Eutelsat-W3A
21404 Beacon
21462 Transponder
21448.35 QPSK 1724Ksym
21449.65 QPSK 1900Ksym
21539 QPSK 1714Ksym
21564 OQPSK 2857Ksym
21567 QPSK 714Ksym
21580.85 QPSK 2480Ksym
21586.5 QPSK 1860Ksym
21599.1 QPSK 1500Ksym
21587 Transponder

5.15W Syracuse-3B
20249.971 Beacon / continuous carrier
20762.375 200KHz wide PSK

12W WGS-3
20219 DVB data
20251.200 QPSK 1048Ksym
20310 DVB data
20700 Beacon, TT&C on +-1024kHz of centre, carriers +- 2048 kHz of centre
20735 DVB data
20780 DVB data
20829.396 QPSK 2048Ksym
20836.600 QPSK 2048Ksym
20838.425 QPSK 348Ksym
20843.120 QPSK 2079Ksym
20889.500 OQPSK 2500Ksym
20899.775 QPSK 1.2MHz wide
21097.27 Beacon
21161.500 QPSK 2.5MHz wide
21196.23 Beacon

22.5W QRT from 12:30z 31st August 2006
20699.994 Propagation Beacon + FHSS Modem (carriers +-203.5KHz)
20295 Transponder
20415 Transponder
20475 Transponder
20595 Transponder (DVB GBS downlink - CNN & Fox news)

Thats my lot, any updates our corrections would be appreciated;
That's quite an impressive list :-)

Do you have any crazy scans please?
 

dx qwer

Specialist Contributor
Messages
615
Likes
581
My Satellite Setup
C-Band: ORBITRON O-16 (4,9m)
KU-Band: KATHREIN CAS 23 (2,20m)
My Location
Rastatt/Germany
#9
Hi guys,

nice toppic! M:W

With big help from hvdh and Feedsat_DXer we started a List for European Ka Satellites on: satellitescommunity.de/kasatellites/3index.html (ad www. in front)

I hope it´s okay to put this here in? :rolleyes:

Best Regards
qwer.
 

hvdh

Specialist Contributor
Messages
1,871
Likes
2,760
My Satellite Setup
Dr.HD F16, TBS 6925, T-55, Laminas 120 cm
My Location
Oss, NL (5.5°E 51.8°N)
#11
Anyone already tried to catch Sicral 2, launched together with Thor 7 on 26 April?
By now, should be on location at 37.0°E.
 

Vipersan

Emmett Browns Ghost
Staff member
Messages
10,863
Likes
6,616
My Satellite Setup
IP9000HD +
TD110 Dish and TD88 Dish in Tandem
66°East to 60°West.
AZbox PrmHD + OpnbxS9HD + Skybox + DrHD F15
2x VboxII AZ-EL
2 m+ Alcoa PF + BSC421 C-Band lnbf...
+SS2/TwHnS2-3200 pci/TBS6925 pci
1.5 Fortec Star -Gbox - HtoH Ku/Ka/C
My Location
UK
#12
Excellent thread ..
nothing to add atm ..but will print and laminate a complete list once it is uploaded..
rgds
VS
 

Vipersan

Emmett Browns Ghost
Staff member
Messages
10,863
Likes
6,616
My Satellite Setup
IP9000HD +
TD110 Dish and TD88 Dish in Tandem
66°East to 60°West.
AZbox PrmHD + OpnbxS9HD + Skybox + DrHD F15
2x VboxII AZ-EL
2 m+ Alcoa PF + BSC421 C-Band lnbf...
+SS2/TwHnS2-3200 pci/TBS6925 pci
1.5 Fortec Star -Gbox - HtoH Ku/Ka/C
My Location
UK
#13
Ok ..
my 9000C (miliband NOT ED) has arrived
Placed on my dish approx 8 to 9 inches right of focus looking from behind the dish..
So although the actual position is not known or logged in the Gbox at this point I'm guesstimating roughly looking in the region of 10 t0 20 West for this scan ..
Nothing locked ..
ie weak signals but no tweaking yet ..
Any ideas what I'm actually pointing at here guys ?
I need to get my bearings..
The scale _should_ be accurate frequency wise ...
LO of the Norsat being 19.250
rgds
VS First scan Norsat 9000C.png

Just rotated the lnb physically and the signal @20879 remained the same (about 3db)..thus indicating it is circular in polarity..
 
Last edited:

Vipersan

Emmett Browns Ghost
Staff member
Messages
10,863
Likes
6,616
My Satellite Setup
IP9000HD +
TD110 Dish and TD88 Dish in Tandem
66°East to 60°West.
AZbox PrmHD + OpnbxS9HD + Skybox + DrHD F15
2x VboxII AZ-EL
2 m+ Alcoa PF + BSC421 C-Band lnbf...
+SS2/TwHnS2-3200 pci/TBS6925 pci
1.5 Fortec Star -Gbox - HtoH Ku/Ka/C
My Location
UK
#14
..a bit of perspex in the feed and the signal goes up to around 5db and lockable ..
No video being carried of course ..or at least ..non I can resolve.
rgds
VS
 

Attachments

Last edited:

Llew

cerca trova...
Staff member
Messages
14,437
Likes
3,385
My Satellite Setup
Triple Dragon, Dreambox 8000, Echostar AD3000ip, TBS6522,6925,6983 PCie cards.
Gibertini 1.25m motorised dish driven by the AD3000, with either Inverto BU Quad or Norsat / XMW Ka LNBs . SMW 1.05m + 3 other dishes. Speccy: Promax HD Ranger+
My Location
The Flatlands of East Anglia
#15
That's surely 5.2W 20880V/R SR 28994 FEC1/4 VS?
Unless it's duplicated on a satellite further West?


5.2W Ka.JPG
 

Vipersan

Emmett Browns Ghost
Staff member
Messages
10,863
Likes
6,616
My Satellite Setup
IP9000HD +
TD110 Dish and TD88 Dish in Tandem
66°East to 60°West.
AZbox PrmHD + OpnbxS9HD + Skybox + DrHD F15
2x VboxII AZ-EL
2 m+ Alcoa PF + BSC421 C-Band lnbf...
+SS2/TwHnS2-3200 pci/TBS6925 pci
1.5 Fortec Star -Gbox - HtoH Ku/Ka/C
My Location
UK
#16
Good enough for me Llew ..
Position Wise it was a guestimate anyway ..
Looks like I now have my reference ,,
Cheers buddy
;)
 

Vipersan

Emmett Browns Ghost
Staff member
Messages
10,863
Likes
6,616
My Satellite Setup
IP9000HD +
TD110 Dish and TD88 Dish in Tandem
66°East to 60°West.
AZbox PrmHD + OpnbxS9HD + Skybox + DrHD F15
2x VboxII AZ-EL
2 m+ Alcoa PF + BSC421 C-Band lnbf...
+SS2/TwHnS2-3200 pci/TBS6925 pci
1.5 Fortec Star -Gbox - HtoH Ku/Ka/C
My Location
UK
#17
Time to employ a bit more accuracy I think..
being so far from the dish focus is making DXing withis lnb harder than it should be.
Basically ...too much deviation from the true arc needing constant elevation adjustment ..
I enjoy a bit of deviation as much as the next guy ...but this is too much.
So ..having already tried a large chunk of western arc with poor results ..I'll temorarily swap the 9000C with the ku lnb ..
closer to focus and known elevation presets plus sat arc references..
Might as well try it whilst the weather is good .
rgds
VS
 

Llew

cerca trova...
Staff member
Messages
14,437
Likes
3,385
My Satellite Setup
Triple Dragon, Dreambox 8000, Echostar AD3000ip, TBS6522,6925,6983 PCie cards.
Gibertini 1.25m motorised dish driven by the AD3000, with either Inverto BU Quad or Norsat / XMW Ka LNBs . SMW 1.05m + 3 other dishes. Speccy: Promax HD Ranger+
My Location
The Flatlands of East Anglia
#18
VS, I hope you can find something higher up the band than 20880 on 5.2W Syracuse on the Norsat and post it.
I can't find anything with my modded Hughes or Inverto, but that may be because of bandwidth limitations with them.
 

Vipersan

Emmett Browns Ghost
Staff member
Messages
10,863
Likes
6,616
My Satellite Setup
IP9000HD +
TD110 Dish and TD88 Dish in Tandem
66°East to 60°West.
AZbox PrmHD + OpnbxS9HD + Skybox + DrHD F15
2x VboxII AZ-EL
2 m+ Alcoa PF + BSC421 C-Band lnbf...
+SS2/TwHnS2-3200 pci/TBS6925 pci
1.5 Fortec Star -Gbox - HtoH Ku/Ka/C
My Location
UK
#19
This is what I suspect to be WGS3 @ 12W
No idea yet as to polarity ..but IF circular this is an RHCP scan
rgds
VS suspected to be WGS3.png

Certainly trying to analyse those peaks with 4T2 is kicking the shit out of my cpu ..
hanging at over 95%
eeek
 
Last edited:

Vipersan

Emmett Browns Ghost
Staff member
Messages
10,863
Likes
6,616
My Satellite Setup
IP9000HD +
TD110 Dish and TD88 Dish in Tandem
66°East to 60°West.
AZbox PrmHD + OpnbxS9HD + Skybox + DrHD F15
2x VboxII AZ-EL
2 m+ Alcoa PF + BSC421 C-Band lnbf...
+SS2/TwHnS2-3200 pci/TBS6925 pci
1.5 Fortec Star -Gbox - HtoH Ku/Ka/C
My Location
UK
#20
Just rotated the plate by 90 degrees ..
So in theory this is an LHCP scan of WGS3 ..
Assuming circular of course..
Looks very similar but sig levels are different ..
So circular or linear ..
Perhaps the lnb should also be rotated through 90 degrees..?
rgds
VS WGS3 possible LHCP scan.png
 
Top