Mdr hd 18.7

solly

solly

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any one can be recoarder for me on mdr hd on 19.2e
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Stars am Wörthersee
Sa 18.07. 20:15Uhr 135:00 min
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To get someone to send you these the file size for these from 19.2°E must be huge with the high bitrate used by ARD!

Your best bet might be to find someone who receives MDR on DVB-T2 in Germany! It's 1080p but in HEVC with a much lower bitrate (lower file size recording) because of codec efficiency. :)
 
In UHD, 2.5 hours is around 1 TB
1080p is roughly 250 GB

So, one hard drive plus postage.
 
Channel Hopper said:
In UHD, 2.5 hours is around 1 TB
1080p is roughly 250 GB

So, one hard drive plus postage.
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I think there's something wrong with your maths. A 2GB segment of TS from MDR HD lasts typically 18 minutes. The total would be 15GB
 
solly said:
any one can be recoarder for me on mdr hd on 19.2e
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Stars am Wörthersee
Sa 18.07. 20:15Uhr 135:00 min
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If you just want the programme,I can record it and transfer it to dvd for you.
Obviously it won’t be in high definition,if that helps,solly
Or i can record it on to a usb stick
 
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LateAdopter said:
I think there's something wrong with your maths. A 2GB segment of TS from MDR HD lasts typically 18 minutes. The total would be 15GB
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From a rough estimate, judging by what I've managed with other ARD HD channel recordings, I think it'd possible to get that 15GB down to just over 2GB by converting the video to HEVC (using FFMPEG, keeping the AC3 audio and subtitles as they are without re-encoding), still at pretty good quality.

I don't mind doing that for this programme! That could even fit on a DVD as a file I guess. :D
 
It will be a 'mega' upload

LateAdopter said:
I think there's something wrong with your maths. A 2GB segment of TS from MDR HD lasts typically 18 minutes. The total would be 15GB
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It's not the maths, but whether Solly requires the file in a similar format as it was uplinked from whoever records it for his pleasure, raw uncompressed video is bandwidth hungry.

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Channel Hopper said:
It will be a 'mega' upload



It's not the maths, but whether Solly requires the file in a similar format as it was uplinked from whoever records it for his pleasure, raw uncompressed video is bandwidth hungry.

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From a digital satellite recording, you never get raw uncompressed data, you just dump the already compressed MPEG-TS data from the DVB-S/S2 transponder directly to disk. Dumping the MPEG Transport Stream of MDR HD to disk in its raw transmitted format - the video from Astra in HD is 1280x720p50, in MPEG4 (H264) running at an average bitrate of 12.0Mbps for the video (plus ~1.5-2.0Mbps for the audio and ancillary data - AC3 surround sound, MP2 audio, Teletext, subtitles, etc).

There's some detailed analysis of it here - MDR Thüringen HD - 10891 - Astra 19.2East - DigitalBitRate

From their measurements, they're saying an average hour of MDR HD takes up around 6.8GB of disk space, which matches up with @LateAdopter's ~15GB estimate for 135 mins.

You can crush this down by discarding any unwanted streams (second audio, teletext, etc), and/or re-encoding the video after recording so the bitrate isn't so high (this compromises quality but you can get pretty good results depending on the settings used).

The German public channels use very high bitrates on satellite, I think partly because it's used as the 'master feed' by various cable companies in Germany which re-encode the streams for their networks to save space in this same way.
 
Adam792 said:
From a rough estimate, judging by what I've managed with other ARD HD channel recordings, I think it'd possible to get that 15GB down to just over 2GB by converting the video to HEVC (using FFMPEG, keeping the AC3 audio and subtitles as they are without re-encoding), still at pretty good quality.

I don't mind doing that for this programme! That could even fit on a DVD as a file I guess. :D
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Adam,would you mind taking up the request?
As I would only be able to record to my satellite receiver hard drive or to a usb stick,which is not what solly wants
Thanks
 
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Adam792 said:
From a digital satellite recording, you never get raw uncompressed data, you just dump the already compressed MPEG-TS data from the DVB-S/S2 transponder directly to disk. Dumping the MPEG Transport Stream of MDR HD to disk in its raw transmitted format - the video from Astra in HD is 1280x720p50, in MPEG4 (H264) running at an average bitrate of 12.0Mbps for the video (plus ~1.5-2.0Mbps for the audio and ancillary data - AC3 surround sound, MP2 audio, Teletext, subtitles, etc).

There's some detailed analysis of it here - MDR Thüringen HD - 10891 - Astra 19.2East - DigitalBitRate

From their measurements, they're saying an average hour of MDR HD takes up around 6.8GB of disk space, which matches up with @LateAdopter's ~15GB estimate for 135 mins.

You can crush this down by discarding any unwanted streams (second audio, teletext, etc), and/or re-encoding the video after recording so the bitrate isn't so high (this compromises quality but you can get pretty good results depending on the settings used).

The German public channels use very high bitrates on satellite, I think partly because it's used as the 'master feed' by various cable companies in Germany which re-encode the streams for their networks to save space in this same way.
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Just to test,I recorded from MDR HD last night,just set a three hour timer on to a 16GB usb stick.
Which in real terms is only 14.7GB.
It only recorded 2 hours 26 minutes.
 
Yep sure, I’ve set a timer to record it!
 
Recorded! It's 12GB, I can't do anything with the file until I'm at home on Monday but I will figure out a way of uploading it then :)
 
thanks afor user recoarde for me
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