Advice Needed Motorised dish control by two receivers

[Gladstones]

Good morning
How to setup two receivers to control motorised dish without using loop through.
Thanks.

 

[a33]

I would do it as described in this post (in Dutch!):

Rotor installeren

www.sat4all.com

The important part of it, translated:

If you want to watch one satellite at the same time with two receivers, but with only one receiver at a time in motor-control, then a setup with a twin-LNB is also possible.

Both receivers have to split the motor- and LNB-path with a power pass both ways splitter (or a reverse power pass splitter, or a Spaun UniTap). The two motor-paths then via a priority switch to the motor. And the two LNB-paths to the two outputs of the twin LNB.

Then you can also watch the motor-satellite with the 'slave'-receiver, for instance another quadrant than the 'master'. And when the 'master' is off, the slave has full motor-control again.

BTW I now don't advise the UniTap anymore! (added: for the splitting off of the motor path)
In one case on the italian forum, it caused a problem.

Greetz,
A33

Edited: addition.

 

[jeallen01]

Simples & dead easy - Add a Smart Priority Switch or SPS (e.g. this one - but ) in the cable before the Rx LNB inputs - then whichever Rx is ON controls the dish motor!

OTOH, SPS seem to have got a lot more expensive than they used to be.

That's how I do it and that's been working very well for several years and is how I can control the Gibby from either the SX88+ in the Lounge or the SX88 in the "office" upstairs.

 

[a33]

OTOH, SPS seem to have got a lot more expensive than they used to be.

I could easily find one for 7.99€: DiSEqC-Schakelaar 1/2 - DiSEqC-schakelaar 2/1, Type: 2-Weg (A/B), Ingangen: 1x F-Connector Female, Uitgangen: 2x F-Connector Female, Frequentiebereik: 950 - 2500MHz.

Don't know about shipping costs to UK, though.

Greetz,
A33

 

[Channel Hopper]

With a manual two way switch in place with full isolating contacts, you can drive the motor with either receiver.

 

[Gladstones]

With a manual two way switch in place with full isolating contacts, you can drive the motor with either receiver.

Thanks all
Where to buy manual switch and what kind

 

[moonbase]

Thanks all
Where to buy manual switch and what kind

Possibly a Philex A/B switch might do the job, supposed to be high isolation ?

 

[ozumo]

Do both receivers need to work at the same time? Is the LNB single or twin?

 

[Gladstones]

Single lnb one needs to work at a time

Is it possible to connect both receivers with some kind of splitter and control the motor by only one receiver say keep the motor setting to none on 2nd receiver

 

[moonbase]

Single lnb one needs to work at a time

Is it possible to connect both receivers with some kind of splitter and control the motor by only one receiver say keep the motor setting to none on 2nd receiver

The Philex switch should do that?
Connect the controlling receiver to one output, the non contolling receiver to the other output and your single LNB cable to the input.

I have not used a Philex like that before but dont see a reason why it wont work. Perhaps one of the "switch gurus" can add something?

 

[a33]

Single lnb one needs to work at a time

Is it possible to connect both receivers with some kind of splitter and control the motor by only one receiver say keep the motor setting to none on 2nd receiver

@jeallen01 's solution does exactly that, automatically. Single LNB, and at the 'slave receiver' you might be able to watch programs in the same quadrant as the master receiver (which has the motor and LNB control, when giving LNB power).
(NB For a priority switch to work properly, the master receiver must be without LNB power, when switched off!)

When you want to watch independently to one chosen satellite, you need a twin LNB, and the setup that I proposed.

keep the motor setting to none on 2nd receiver

When the second receiver is switched off, there is no 'motor setting' of the second receiver. So what do you mean by that?

Edit: do you mean you don't want motor control, from your second receiver? Just the LNB-signal?
Of course you are free to use the motor control, or not, from your second receiver.
Why not have the ability to use the motor control, when the first receiver is switched off anyhow?


Greetz,
A33

 

[Offtensive]

I could easily find one for 7.99€: DiSEqC-Schakelaar 1/2 - DiSEqC-schakelaar 2/1, Type: 2-Weg (A/B), Ingangen: 1x F-Connector Female, Uitgangen: 2x F-Connector Female, Frequentiebereik: 950 - 2500MHz.

Don't know about shipping costs to UK, though.

Greetz,
A33

I have the same switch, I haven't got around to setting it up yet. I was recommended it from a member on another forum.

Goobay 51445 SAT Priority Switch: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo

Free delivery and returns on eligible orders. Buy Goobay 51445 SAT Priority Switch at Amazon UK.

www.amazon.co.uk

 

[jeallen01]

I have the same switch, I haven't got around to setting it up yet. I was recommended it from a member on another forum.

Goobay 51445 SAT Priority Switch: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo

Free delivery and returns on eligible orders. Buy Goobay 51445 SAT Priority Switch at Amazon UK.

www.amazon.co.uk

The expensive one that I linked this morning was after only a very quick search, and so that's more like the price they should be ( and some of mine are just like that one)

 

[a33]

@ozumo 's solution does exactly that

Duh! I meant @jeallen01 's solution.

Sorry, jeallen01!
It seems I just looked who posted above, but not who posted what...

Greetz,
A33

 

[Gladstones]

Thank you everyone
So buy Goobay 41445 and it’s the best way or I am missing something

 

[Gladstones]

@jeallen01 's solution does exactly that, automatically. Single LNB, and at the 'slave receiver' you might be able to watch programs in the same quadrant as the master receiver (which has the motor and LNB control, when giving LNB power).
(NB For a priority switch to work properly, the master receiver must be without LNB power, when switched off!)

When you want to watch independently to one chosen satellite, you need a twin LNB, and the setup that I proposed.



When the second receiver is switched off, there is no 'motor setting' of the second receiver. So what do you mean by that?

Edit: do you mean you don't want motor control, from your second receiver? Just the LNB-signal?
Of course you are free to use the motor control, or not, from your second receiver.
Why not have the ability to use the motor control, when the first receiver is switched off anyhow?


Greetz,
A33

Yes that’s why I mean

 

[Gladstones]

Philex A/B not available
Following manual switch and goobay 51445
Available on Amazon

 

[Gladstones]

Edit post no 15 Goobay 51445

 

[a33]

Yes that’s why I mean

OK.
So you don't want to use the motor control at your second receiver, just to receive the signal.

By the way. When the first receiver is switched off while the dish is at the "wrong" satellite for your second receiver, you could still use the second receiver to go to the wanted satellite.
With USALS (GotoX) that is no problem at all.
With diseqc 1.2 GotoNn commands it can work also, but you have to use the same Nn number for a certain satellite. These Nn numbers must match with the stored Nn positions in the motor.
You could also use USALS with one receiver, and diseqc1.2 GotoNn with the other....

Just for your information,
Greetz,
A33

 

[jeallen01]

Thank you everyone
So buy Goobay 41445 and it’s the best way or I am missing something-

Yes, buy & try it and hopefully that will solve your "problem"

Even if doesn't then I'm sure you'll find another use for it in the future.

BTW: I actually have 3 SPS in a box just outside the house to allow access & control from both the lounge and the office - one is for the Gibby, the 2nd for the the steerable TD110 & the 3rd goes down to the DiSEqC 16-1 switch for the fixed dishes.