Older Diesel Vehicles more polluting ?

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London mayor suggests blanket charges for capital (and possibly the rest of the UK)

Cars older than 2005 may have to pay extra London 'air pollution charge' - BBC News

Very much like the earlier Low Emission Regs that put in place a £100 a day entry fee to London for Pre- 2000 vehicles, there is no check on the mileage, running engine condition, type of fuel, nor the emissions that come out of the exhaust.

Biodiesel (varying amounts , B1/2/100 etc) was confirmed as shortening the life of some rubber/plastic components in vehicles manufactured before 1992, but this proposal shafts a further 13 years ownership of car/van.
 

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For those who celebrate the diesel engine can I suggest a visit to Internal Fire: the Museum of Power. I took my brother there for his birthday and we both enjoyed ourselves immensely.

As a bonus for Radio Amateurs, there is a station there which is manned on occasion for special events. The station shares a building housing displays of telephones and working exchanges of various types. The speaking clock is accurate as well!

I have some photos at home which I'll try to post later on this evening.

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Fascinating, Rudolph Diesel story (could only find in German).
Ended life by being thrown overboard from a liner, on the way to England to build factories.

 

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Fascinating, Rudolph Diesel story (could only find in German).
Ended life by being thrown overboard from a liner, on the way to England to build factories.
I think that's conjecture. All that can be said for certain is that he disappeared whilst on board.
 

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His original engine ran so well on vegetable (Peanut) oil that he did not continue looking for an alternative in coal dust and mineral derivatives.
 

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There's an interesting BBC Timeshift doc; 'The Engine that Powers the World.' Maybe it needs renaming 'The Engine that Powers the World - except London.'
 

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That's the programme that I learned about the museum from. And it was a damn good programme to boot.
 

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Going off at a tangent...... the program explained the Ricardo Comet swirl chamber. We have a Ricardo factory down the road which makes gearboxes. I'd always assumed these were boxes of cogs for mundane jobs like conveyor belts etc. In reality, they're a bit more sophisticated, going into things like F1 cars and the Bugatti Veyron
 

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Diesel Trek - The Wrath of Khan...
 

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You know what's fun about the attack on diesels? The biggest contributor to the release of the NOx emissions are turbocharged engines, not just diesels, but petrol ones too, so to slap a charge on just diesels is ignorant at best, and of course there's the buses that pootle about the city, including tourbuses which have no real practical use other than to ferry people about to go "Oh how nice" at everything they see, all the while people using their cars & vans to go to and do work in the city suffer as a result of the ignorance...

Silly Khan, can't defeat the Enterprise so has to go after Diesel, oh, sorry, wrong Khan... :p
 

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It's now looking like there is zero distinction between petrochemical , and organic fuels with the latest proposals.

Four major cities move to ban diesel vehicles by 2025 - BBC News
That should force a price drop in cooking oil:eek:


Unfortunately my newish steed won't run on the stuff as far as I can gather, the ZX having expired at the end of the summer.

In hindsite I should have taken the Bosch fuel components off when the water pump gave up the ghost.
 

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the French are much more heavily invested in diesel cars than over here.

We know that all too well when the summer winds change and blows their pollution into the UK, and we get told to clean up our act by them............... :-doh

Still say they need to look at turbocharged petrol engines too, given they belch out as much NOx as a turbo diesel engine does, and no I don't mean going electric, cos that just moves the pollution to someone else's back yard...
 

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We know that all too well when the summer winds change and blows their pollution into the UK, and we get told to clean up our act by them............... :-doh

Still say they need to look at turbocharged petrol engines too, given they belch out as much NOx as a turbo diesel engine does, and no I don't mean going electric, cos that just moves the pollution to someone else's back yard...

The ZX was non-turbo, utterly gutless. Moreso as it was an auto. But ran fine on 100% svo.

Edit - the replacement may run on bio, will have to check further .

Run a Honda CDTI on bio diesel?
 

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Yeah, non-turbo diesels are pretty gutless machines, but, they're not meant to be race cars, just economical beasts that clatter from A to B with the least amount spent on fuel... :D
 

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Ironic, really, as the most likely place to pick up summat nasty is from the Waiting Rooms of GP Surgeries and Hospitals, what with all those horrid poorly types hanging around and the unbearably hot and airless environment.
 
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