Thanks all for the input, we were sold the equipment on the basis that the 45 disc worked well in trials and even under way,the latter is not something we are bothered about but we have had good reception in UK France and Northern Spain. Again set manufacturer claims works throughout Europe so expecting it to do so, its motor driven so tracks the satellite constantly thought that might be the way they overvame sizie of dish. Anyway found the skew angle for Valencia about 30 miles North of Denia and climbed up took off the dome lid and reset. Tracking Astra 2 and got a good picture but only able to get BBC and sky news so far. Wonder whether there is a secondary problem as received a replacement Sky card for the mini box last year and tried inserting but set rejected so reverted to original card as instructions with new card say if set not been used for a while you have to use old card and leave equipment on for 24 hours, time nearly up so will then try the new card again and see if more channels pop up. Instructions with new card also says you start to lose channels if you do not change to the new card so wonder if this may be having some effect on what I currentl receive, again will find out more when 24 hours up but any other comments much appreciated.