Ses Want Frequency Of Eutelsat

[Analoguesat]

How many transponders does it have?

Lots & lots -

48 into Europe! (Plus 12 into Africa & 3 Ka)

http://www.ses.com/4628845/astra-2f

 

[timo_w2s]

Now I realise why MTV Live and Nick Toons started new copies of their channels on 11.224/V a few days ago too.

 

[Huevos]

Can someone confirm the SR & FEC for 12304H - Im hot getting anything either using 27500 2/3

DVB-S 12304 H 27500 3/4

 

[Analoguesat]

Yup that agrees with my observations too Huevos.

 

[Analoguesat]

12188H is sr 27500 fec 3/4 as well

 

[Analoguesat]

So assuming the satellite swap go ahead which expats are going to lose out this time around?? Eastern Med & Canaries?

 

[timo_w2s]

Finland and eastern Europe too.

In Finland 11.45 - 11.70 GHz are pretty strong, even on an 80cm dish in Helsinki and a 90cm in Lapland.

For 12.50 – 12.75 GHz the verticals are strong but the horizontals where a bit weaker.

 

[Huevos]

So assuming the satellite swap go ahead which expats are going to lose out this time around?? Eastern Med & Canaries?

Well that depends on which beam. If it is PE that beam has not been used from 28E.

 

[solly]

it possible 12304h move to spot beam not pe 1 ?

 

[Huevos]

I thought all frequencies could be mapped to any beam.

 

[timo_w2s]

it possible 12304h move to spot beam not pe 1 ?

I'm in the UK at the moment so I can't tell, as they are all strong here. I'm sure if it is a spot beam we'll hear from people in the fringes once Sky map the channels to this transponder.

 

[Huevos]

I'm in the UK at the moment so I can't tell, as they are all strong here. I'm sure if it is a spot beam we'll hear from people in the fringes once Sky map the channels to this transponder.

To me it looks similar strength to 12207V.

 

[Analoguesat]

To me it looks similar strength to 12207V.

I concur its 1N Europe beam from the following unscientific look at the powers..

FREQ - beam - SNR/AGC

12130H - beam to be decided - 90/87%

11126V - 2F UK- 97/98% (the strongest DVB-S tp on 28E here by miles)

10714H - 1N UK - 93/92%

12148H - 1N Europe - 90/87%

12207V - 1N Europe - 90/86%

All done within a few minutes of each other on my 7020

 

[lgrijander]

Looks like some moves have started already by Sky to get their channels off Eutelsat.

A copy of 11508H has started on 10921H
A copy of 11565V has started on 12304H
A copy of 11603V has started on 12188H

On Gandia 60Km south of Valencia (Spain)

Measured with a DM800
10921 8.5db Looks like Astra 1N spot
12304 13.5db ????
12188 15.0db ????

On the 1N pan European and 2A South I usually have around 17-18d and with 2F spot I have around 10db, so to me is difficult to say where those two last TP's are coming from.

 

[Huevos]

On the 1N pan European and 2A South I usually have around 17-18d

Obviously measuring with something not up to the job. Measured on a 1.1m dish and Satlook Color HD.

2A South: 16.5dB;
1n UK spot: 11.4dB;
1n PE beam: 13.5dB;
2F UK spot: 8.3dB;
12304H: 13.6dB;

 

[trigger]

So assuming the satellite swap go ahead which expats are going to lose out this time around?? Eastern Med & Canaries?

Those that have been duplicated are from the S1 beam which we don't get in the Canaries without a 3M+ dish anyway. So at the moment making no impact here yet.
But on the Superbeam (Lyngsat's name not mine) there are an awful lot of free channels that we do get that many people will miss.
True movies, CBS reality, tiny pop, music channels etc
Not the best TV channels but they are free

 

[trigger]

And we can only just see 10.921 H with 1.5 and bigger
The others nothing - will check 3M later

 

[lgrijander]

Obviously measuring with something not up to the job.

Never said so

As I mentioned those where just relative measurements and comparisons taken with a DM800, I did not mentioned but the antenna was a Tecatel 1.20 offset.

 

[timo_w2s]

Those that have been duplicated are from the S1 beam which we don't get in the Canaries without a 3M+ dish anyway. So at the moment making no impact here yet.
But on the Superbeam (Lyngsat's name not mine) there are an awful lot of free channels that we do get that many people will miss.
True movies, CBS reality, tiny pop, music channels etc
Not the best TV channels but they are free

Most of those are in the band (11.200-11.450) staying on Eutelsat, assuming they don't start switching too many channels around.

 

[Bengt]

Hi

Two frequencies that have been dormant for a while have also been activated, (not sure when), namely
11954H
12129V

Didn't carry any real transmissions or stream ID, when last I checked, though.

Regards,
Bengt