Sirius 5e - Nordic Transponders???

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bigtee

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My Satellite Setup
Sky; Raven 90 multi-LNB 1W,5E, 7E, 9E, 13E 16E, 19E, 28E; 60cm Triax dish on Moteck SG2100 motor; Various Receivers
My Location
Kent, UK
I am curious as to whether folk here can receive signals from the BSS/FSS Nordic beams of the 4.8e satellite. If so, which transponders?

I'm planning to fine-tune my set up and it would be helpful to use this as a test and compare.

@Robbo (who is near me), your results on the 1m Orbital in particular and the TD 110 (if they are available) would be very helpful.
 
With my 85cm dish in Glasgow I can get all of the Nordic beams in good weather. Some are stronger than others, here is a list of signal quality readings from my Passion HD taken today (dry but partly cloudy).

11727 H - 64%
11785 V - 51%
11804 H - 54%
11823 V - 52%
11843 H - 55%
11862 V - 54%
11881 H - 54%
11900 V - 54%
11919 H - 55%
11938 V - 54%
11958 H - 55%
11977 V - 55%
11996 H - 55%
12015 V - 55%
12034 H - 56%
12054 V - 51%
12092 V - 52%
12399 V - 50%
12437 V - 53%
12456 H - 60%
12476 V - 62%

The Passion needs 50% quality to reliably lock a signal so as you can imagine most of these have no rain fade margin.
 
Ive just had a look at 5e too In Southampton on my TD110 and the Nordics seem to be about 58-59% Level, 98% quality on ALT-DVB (Mantis DVBS2 card). I havent double checked every Nordic freq, just picked a couple off of Lyngsat that are listed as Nordic and not Europe beams.

Weather currently overcast, dish probably isn't perfectly aligned either!
 
50% signal in SE kent with 80cm
 
4.8°E, BSS Nordic beam Transponders >

11.727H
11.785V
11.862V

Midlands, 85cm.
 
here is what i get but I'm probably nearer the footprint

11727 H - 83%
11747v 73%
11785 V - 70%
11804 H - 76%
11823 V - 75%
11843 H - 76%
11862 V - 76%
11881 H - 76%
11900 V - 73%
11919 H - 76%
11938 V - 73%
11958 H - 76%
11977 V - 73%
11996 H - 76%
12015 V - 73%
12034 H - 76%
12054 V - 73%
12092 V - 76%
12399 V - * hd no receiver to test
12437 V - * hd no receiver to test
12456 H - 83%
12476 V - 83%

west yorkshire, 90cm channel master, smart titanium lnb, vantage x221ci receiver
 
I can just get the Nordic beams on one of my battered 80cm dishes in good weather - the first hint of rain and the signal disappears (didnt see much of them during the last year!)

Ive just swapped that old dish for my 85 cm Penta so Im expecting a better performance once I get it fully tweaked and the hedge trimmed back a bit.

(Ive also mounted the pole correctly so it doesnt swing around in high winds which should help a bit!)
 
Analoguesat said:
I can just get the Nordic beams on one of my battered 80cm dishes in good weather - the first hint of rain and the signal disappears (didnt see much of them during the last year!)

Ive just swapped that old dish for my 85 cm Penta so Im expecting a better performance once I get it fully tweaked and the hedge trimmed back a bit.

(Ive also mounted the pole correctly so it doesnt swing around in high winds which should help a bit!)
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Another Penta boffin A/S, looking forward to a signal report across the skies up there :D
 
Its only roughly aligned at the moment as I had to go out this afternoon. If the weather is ok next weekend I'll have a go at tweaking it up a bit.
 
Analoguesat said:
Its only roughly aligned at the moment as I had to go out this afternoon. If the weather is ok next weekend I'll have a go at tweaking it up a bit.
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So the birds lost their bird bath then as last time I saw it she was on the ground (posted a while back) :cool:
 
They lost the bird bath a long time ago - its been propped up under the hedge blocking up a gap for a while!
 
Thanks all for responses; rather surprisingly, I have always been able to get only about three of the Nordic transponders (12456 and a couple of others); quite baffling considering my results on other satellites in the arc westerly from 5e right from 1w - 30w including Nilesat! However, I can't get further east than 5e due to obstruction; maybe that has something to do with it or is the footprint of the Nordic TPs weaker down here in the south?
 
bigtee said:
Thanks all for responses; rather surprisingly, I have always been able to get only about three of the Nordic transponders (12456 and a couple of others); quite baffling considering my results on other satellites in the arc westerly from 5e right from 1w - 30w including Nilesat! However, I can't get further east than 5e due to obstruction; maybe that has something to do with it or is the footprint of the Nordic TPs weaker down here in the south?
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Unfortunately the officialy published footprint doesn't even include most of the UK. But at your location I would expect the signal to be better than at mine, particularly as you have a 1M dish Vs my 85cm. Is it possible that your arc is off slightly resulting in the wrong elevation when the dish is at 5.0E ?
 
Ah ---- I should say, my motorised set-up has the one small flaw; the mast is makeshift and probably not 100% plumb vertical. Nevertheless, I get very very good results on all satellites within line of sight (including Thor Nordic and Nilesat Vs and some Hs occasionally) - so the tracking seems reasonable!
 
would you think there is any hope of getting sirius 4.8 using a 1.2m dish in the irish midlands or is that pushing the fringe concept just a bit too far
 
I rather doubt it - even if you can get them in good weather there wont be much if any rain fade margin. The signal strength nose dives south and especially west
 
bigtee said:
I am curious as to whether folk here can receive signals from the BSS/FSS Nordic beams of the 4.8e satellite. If so, which transponders?

I'm planning to fine-tune my set up and it would be helpful to use this as a test and compare.

@Robbo (who is near me), your results on the 1m Orbital in particular and the TD 110 (if they are available) would be very helpful.
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Sorry, bigtee, only just noticed this thread ONLY A YEAR LATE!!! lol, anyway, here is what I have on my TD110 (no longer have the Orbital)on my TM6800
(needs 49% for picture, I get 64% on MBC 7W, and 76% on MBC 26E.


11727H 76%
11747V 67%
11785V 62%
11804H 73%
11823V 66%
11843H 73%
11862V 69%
11881H 73%
11900V 67%
11919H 73%
11938V 68%
11958H 74%
11977V 69%
11996H 76%
12015V 69%
12034H 75%
12054V 68%
12092V 70%
12399V 73%
12437V 74%
12456h 79%
12476h 79%
 
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