Sky HD Amstrad boxkey conundrum

davesullybags

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My Satellite Setup
Sky HD / DVB-S FreeSAT -> DVBlogic DVBlink -> W7MC vid Hauppauge HD PVR
My Location
Cork, Ireland
Hi Folks,

Long time lurker, noob poster!

I have a working dreambox 500s / sky SD (no sharing) setup with DVBlink Tv Source, it works well enough and I love it.

My subs are:

1 * Sky SD box (as multiroom)
1 * Sky HD Amstrad box (recently replaced)

Now, I have no problem with the boxkey generation to get it working with the various plugins, CCCam / ACamd ect...

But, with my Sky HD sub, I just cant get the right boxkey generated, i'm totally stumped..

I have tried all I know, converting th EPG serial no to hex / 17 digit on sticker on bottom of box thru boxkey generator ect, still no success...

again, no card-sharing boldness, just wonderign if anyoen has ano other tips, theres a 50 euro paypal reward for fixing this, as this is now beginning to cost me quite a bit to get sorted....(need to cancel 1 sky subscription...)

some notes:

my boxkey goes into:

1. /var/tuxbox/config/newcs.xml (on dreambox)
2. /var/etc/CCcam.cfg (on dreambox)
3. C:\Program Files (x86)\DVBLogic\DVBLink2\Sources\TVSource\Plugins\smartcard.conf (PC)

I have googled my little heart out and have run out of ideas, I also have a list of boxkey's that I have tried, should someone accept the challenge;-)
 
Probably the hex conversion is wrong. How did you do it?
 
Hi Huevos!

first, i got the serial from the epg menu (10 digits), dropped the first 2 digits and converted that to hex, which resulted in 7 digits, so I added a 0 to the front to give me 8 digit boxkey.

that didnt work, so i got the 17 digit key on sticker on bottom of box and generated boxkey using:

_http://boxkey.exyucs.com/generator.php?lan=en

thats didnt work either...

any ideas?
 
Send an empty CCcam.cfg to the receiver and see if you can clear the FTV channels like Five, Fiver, Five US and Sky 3, and any contained in your family pack subscription.
 
Hi, finally got time to test this, did what you said with the empty cccam file,
then lost access to all premium channels as expected.

poped in the new cccam fiel with boxkey for HD sub card, still no go.

whats weird is that it seems ONLY the movie channels cannot be decoded, all other channels I tied worked OK. (that i tried anyway via dreambox - steanta / sky sports / nickeldoden / rte / discovery ect.... all OK)

??? gonna try factory reset the dreambox
I;m using:

NabiloDM500-V08-MAXVAR
CCcam (ver 2.1.2)
newCS (ver 1.6.7)

which is perfect with my sky sd sub card, should I try a different image?
 
Ok, when you load the CCcam.cfg do you still receive the channels you are getting with the empty file or do those channels stop as well?
 
just a daft question but have you checked the card entitlements?

seems strange that some of the premium channels are decoding and some arent?
 
Huevos said:
Ok, when you load the CCcam.cfg do you still receive the channels you are getting with the empty file or do those channels stop as well?


if i recall, when i used the empty cccam.cfg file, I was unable to receive any channels.
 
paxrax said:
just a daft question but have you checked the card entitlements?

seems strange that some of the premium channels are decoding and some arent?

agreed, strange indeed.

the card is back on the sky hd box, and all channels are working as expected, sd & hd movie channels as well.

i didn't check the entitlements when the card was in dreambox, i'll pop it in over weekend and check, but if they are working in sky box, i assume all is Ok with subscription
 
May I ask why you dropped the first two figures of the HD box serial number (from EPG) when converting to hex? Using Cccam on an OpenBox S9 here and working fine (including all premium channels subscribed to) when I used all 10 figures and converted to hex giving me an 8 figure hex number.
 
davemurgtroyd said:
May I ask why you dropped the first two figures of the HD box serial number (from EPG) when converting to hex? Using Cccam on an OpenBox S9 here and working fine (including all premium channels subscribed to) when I used all 10 figures and converted to hex giving me an 8 figure hex number.

tried that method as well, still no go.

when i convert the 17 digit key on bottom of box using nds box key creator, i got a 8 digit hex which gives me all channels, including sports channels on my sub. (but no movie channels)

when i convert the 10 digit serial to hex, i get no sport channels, but all the other channels (no movies either)

pop the car back into the sky box, and all movie & hd channels are there no problem.

Entitlements for card 0
.--------------------------------------.
| Provider | Expiry date | Expiry time |
|----------|-------------|-------------|
| 0003 | 2011-03-13 | 00:00:00 |
| 000B | 2011-03-13 | 00:00:00 |
| 0010 | 2011-03-13 | 00:00:00 |
| 001D | 2011-03-13 | 00:00:00 |
| 2590 | 2011-03-13 | 00:00:00 |
| 30E1 | 2011-03-13 | 00:00:00 |
| 30E2 | 2011-03-13 | 00:00:00 |
| 30E3 | 2011-03-13 | 00:00:00 |
| 30E4 | 2011-03-13 | 00:00:00 |
| 30E5 | 2011-03-13 | 00:00:00 |
| B732 | 2011-03-13 | 00:00:00 |
| B736 | 2011-03-13 | 00:00:00 |
| B765 | 2011-03-13 | 00:00:00 |
| B766 | 2011-03-13 | 00:00:00 |
| B772 | 2011-03-13 | 00:00:00 |
| B773 | 2011-03-13 | 00:00:00 |
| B846 | 2011-03-13 | 00:00:00 |
| B860 | 2011-03-13 | 00:00:00 |
| B8BB | 2011-03-13 | 00:00:00 |
| B8BC | 2011-03-13 | 00:00:00 |
| B8BF | 2011-03-13 | 00:00:00 |
| B8D2 | 2011-03-13 | 00:00:00 |
| B8F9 | 2011-03-13 | 00:00:00 |



??????
 
Since you can see the Sports channels you must have converted the box key correctly.

Try a full rescan of the 28°e satellite, or even better, load a latest satellites.xml into your DM500 and then do a rescan.

If still having problems give an example of a channel you can't clear. Give channel name plus all frequency details.
 
Burnham Beech said:
Since you can see the Sports channels you must have converted the box key correctly.

Try a full rescan of the 28°e satellite, or even better, load a latest satellites.xml into your DM500 and then do a rescan.

If still having problems give an example of a channel you can't clear. Give channel name plus all frequency details.

interesting...

i'll check this out now
 
Burnham Beech said:
Since you can see the Sports channels you must have converted the box key correctly.

Try a full rescan of the 28°e satellite, or even better, load a latest satellites.xml into your DM500 and then do a rescan.

If still having problems give an example of a channel you can't clear. Give channel name plus all frequency details.


ok, did a full rescan, and something very strange now happening...

i just tried to view sky family (movies) and there is some movie special on for tangled, or something, and I can view that no problem,
however if I try and view any other movie channel, where the movie is already started, black screen.

seems like a PIN issue?

I did have PIN enabled on ALL movie channels before when using HDPVR & DVBlink, then had a hook script to fire out the pin when required, worked a treat

i''m guessing now these movie channels are still PIN protected somehow.

I'll put the card back into the sky box, again, to double check this, I'm sure I did disable that stuff already tho....
 
ACamd, is showing the same results....


10:15:56.107: ACamd v0.6.1.8
10:15:56.131: MD-API Version 01.06
10:15:56.134: systems: registering CA system Cardclient, pri -15, ident 1000
10:15:56.134: structloaders: registering loader cardclient config
10:15:56.134: cardclients: registering cardclient Newcamd
10:15:56.134: cardclients: registering cardclient Newcamd2
10:15:56.134: cardclients: registering cardclient CCcamN
10:15:56.134: cardclients: registering cardclient Radegast
10:15:56.134: cardclients: registering cardclient Camd35
10:15:56.134: cardclients: registering cardclient EmuBox03
10:15:56.134: cardclients: registering cardclient Gbox
10:15:56.134: cardclients: registering cardclient GboxN
10:15:56.134: cardclients: registering cardclient MboxN
10:15:56.134: structloaders: registering loader smartcard data
10:15:56.134: systems: registering CA system SC-Irdeto, pri -10, ident 1001
10:15:56.134: feature: using feature SMARTCARD
10:15:56.134: registering Irdeto smartcard (id 49726474)
10:15:56.134: systems: registering CA system SC-Seca, pri -10, ident 1002
10:15:56.134: registering Seca smartcard (id 53656361)
10:15:56.134: systems: registering CA system SC-Viaccess, pri -10, ident 1003
10:15:56.134: registering Viaccess smartcard (id 56696173)
10:15:56.134: systems: registering CA system SC-Conax, pri -10, ident 1004
10:15:56.134: registering Conax smartcard (id 436f6e78)
10:15:56.134: systems: registering CA system SC-Cryptoworks, pri -10, ident 1005
10:15:56.134: registering Cryptoworks smartcard (id 4372576f)
10:15:56.134: systems: registering CA system SC-Nagra, pri -10, ident 1006
10:15:56.134: registering Nagra smartcard (id 4e616772)
10:15:56.134: systems: registering CA system SC-NDS, pri -10, ident 1007
10:15:56.134: registering NDS smartcard (id 56694732)
10:15:56.148: Monitor listen on port 52877
10:15:56.192: B:Betatunnel, CAID:1833 with Provider:00000000 to CAID:1702 with Provider:00000000
10:15:56.192: Engine [MD-API]
10:15:56.192: loading smartcard data from C:\Program Files (x86)\DVBLogic\DVBLink2\Sources\TVSource\Plugins\smartcard.conf
10:15:56.193: loaded 9 smartcard data from C:\Program Files (x86)\DVBLogic\DVBLink2\Sources\TVSource\Plugins\smartcard.conf
10:15:56.193: loading cardclient config from C:\Program Files (x86)\DVBLogic\DVBLink2\Sources\TVSource\Plugins\cardclient.conf
10:15:56.193: now using protocol version 525 (cdLen=8)
10:15:56.194: hostname=172.16.10.148 port=34000 emm=0 emmCaids 0000/0000
10:15:56.194: Newcamd: username=user1 password=pass1 key=0102030405060708091011121314 providers=none
10:15:56.194: client 'Newcamd' ready
10:15:56.194: ** registered systems:
10:15:56.194: ** SC-NDS (pri -10)
10:15:56.194: ** SC-Nagra (pri -10)
10:15:56.194: ** SC-Cryptoworks (pri -10)
10:15:56.194: ** SC-Conax (pri -10)
10:15:56.194: ** SC-Viaccess (pri -10)
10:15:56.194: ** SC-Seca (pri -10)
10:15:56.194: ** SC-Irdeto (pri -10)
10:15:56.194: ** Cardclient (pri -15)
10:15:56.194: no smartcard interface defined!
10:15:56.194:
Blocked 1 same messages...
10:16:06.968: Ch: 261 - Sky Family
10:16:06.968: Programm crc: 09221D65
10:16:06.997: Incomming PackageSize [184]
10:16:07.170: PMT: ACamd_PMT.txt, search, not found PMT=0105 (AND SID=1133)
10:16:07.171: PMT: chcache.ini, 0105,1133,0963,00000000,0513,00C0,Sky Family
10:16:07.171: 0x0105 0x1133 0x0963 0x00000000 0x0513 0x00C0 11111110
10:16:07.217: Login attemp (1)
10:16:07.218: connecting to 172.16.10.148:34000/tcp (172.16.10.148)
10:16:07.841: Newcamd 0: CaID=0963 admin=1 srvUA=000000000238DA9D provider 000000/000000000238DA00
10:16:07.841: Newcamd: EMM disabled from config
10:16:07.846: Newcamd 0: ECM [0513][0963/00000000] Pro (0.004)
10:16:07.995: [00] SendDCW Odd: :B6AD7BDEB7508F96
10:16:08.009: Newcamd 0: ECM [0513][0963/00000000] Pro (0.005)
10:16:15.330: Newcamd 0: ECM [0513][0963/00000000] Pro (0.122)
10:16:15.335: [00] SendDCW Even: B2C7FE77CE7F57A4:
10:16:23.408: Newcamd 0: ECM [0513][0963/00000000] Pro (0.117)
10:16:24.011: [00] SendDCW Odd: :BD7B2058A4A9D01D
10:16:30.556: Newcamd 0: ECM [0513][0963/00000000] Pro (0.119)
10:16:30.645: [00] SendDCW Even: 54B8000C604F30DF:
10:16:38.641: Newcamd 0: ECM [0513][0963/00000000] Pro (0.117)
10:16:38.811: [00] SendDCW Odd: :5AD1FC27CFC7750B
10:16:43.064:
10:16:43.064: Ch: 262 - Sky DramaRom
10:16:43.064: Programm crc: 6EB6DA26
10:16:44.173: PMT: ACamd_PMT.txt, search, not found PMT=0106 (AND SID=157E)
10:16:44.173: PMT: chcache.ini, 0106,157E,0963,00000000,0512,00C0,Sky DramaRom
10:16:44.173: 0x0106 0x157E 0x0963 0x00000000 0x0512 0x00C0 11111110
10:16:44.220: Newcamd 0: ECM [0512][0963/00000000] Pro (0.002)
10:16:44.220: Newcamd 0: ECM [0512][0963/00000000] not able to decode
10:16:46.194: Newcamd 0: ECM [0512][0961/00000000] Pro (0.002)
10:16:46.194: Newcamd 0: ECM [0512][0961/00000000] not able to decode
10:16:46.196: Newcamd 0: ECM [0512][0960/00000000] Pro (0.002)
10:16:46.196: Newcamd 0: ECM [0512][0960/00000000] not able to decode
10:16:47.604: Newcamd 0: ECM [0512][0963/00000000] Pro (0.002)
10:16:47.604: Newcamd 0: ECM [0512][0963/00000000] not able to decode
10:16:47.606: Newcamd 0: ECM [0512][0961/00000000] Pro (0.002)
10:16:47.606: Newcamd 0: ECM [0512][0961/00000000] not able to decode
10:16:47.607: Newcamd 0: ECM [0512][0960/00000000] Pro (0.001)
10:16:47.607: Newcamd 0: ECM [0512][0960/00000000] not able to decode
10:16:54.656: Newcamd 0: ECM [0512][0963/00000000] Pro (0.002)
10:16:54.656: Newcamd 0: ECM [0512][0963/00000000] not able to decode
10:16:54.657: Newcamd 0: ECM [0512][0961/00000000] Pro (0.001)
10:16:54.657: Newcamd 0: ECM [0512][0961/00000000] not able to decode
10:16:54.658: Newcamd 0: ECM [0512][0960/00000000] Pro (0.001)
10:16:54.658: Newcamd 0: ECM [0512][0960/00000000] not able to decode
10:16:56.985:
10:16:56.985: Ch: 261 - Sky Family
10:16:56.985: Programm crc: 09221D65
10:16:56.985: PMT: ACamd_PMT.txt, search, not found PMT=0105 (AND SID=1133)
10:16:56.986: PMT: chcache.ini, 0105,1133,0963,00000000,0513,00C0,Sky Family
10:16:56.986: 0x0105 0x1133 0x0963 0x00000000 0x0513 0x00C0 11111110
10:16:57.048: Newcamd 0: ECM [0513][0963/00000000] Pro (0.005)
10:16:57.056: [00] SendDCW Odd: :01182D46A2053AE1
10:16:57.056: [00] SendDCW Even: 54B8000C604F30DF:
10:17:02.985: Newcamd 0: ECM [0513][0963/00000000] Pro (0.117)
10:17:03.161: [00] SendDCW Even: 3FB5948870DDA3F0:
10:17:11.072: Newcamd 0: ECM [0513][0963/00000000] Pro (0.116)
10:17:11.822: [00] SendDCW Odd: :E0468CB292D5E34A
 
Burnham Beech said:
Since you can see the Sports channels you must have converted the box key correctly.

Try a full rescan of the 28°e satellite, or even better, load a latest satellites.xml into your DM500 and then do a rescan.

If still having problems give an example of a channel you can't clear. Give channel name plus all frequency details.

here are some of the channels that I cannot decode

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I don't understand all of what you have posted. Your first post says you put your boxkey into CCam.cfg yet above log has a lot of Newcamd stuff.

I now suggest that you load a new firmware into your DB500 and then load only CCcam.
 
Burnham Beech said:
I don't understand all of what you have posted. Your first post says you put your boxkey into CCam.cfg yet above log has a lot of Newcamd stuff.

I now suggest that you load a new firmware into your DB500 and then load only CCcam.


ok ignore the Newcamd stuff (that was used in conjunction with dvblink Tv source...), the issue still present when just using the dreambox.

I factory reset the dreambox and entered boxkey into CCcam / newcs files.

i'm using CCcam_2.1.2 & newCS1.67 on the dreambox (NabiloDM500-V08-MAXVAR) & only trying to view the channels via the dreambox as well (SD channels)

all sport channels & all other channels are decoding OK, still no movie channels


I'll give that a go tonight tho, i'll factory reset again and just try CCcam

do you recommended any dreambox firmware / cccam versions?
 
yes, I think you should uncomplicate the setup and just run cccam 2.1.3 or newer. add your boxkey and see if the channels clear then once that is working, concentrate on newcs ect
 
andel said:
yes, I think you should uncomplicate the setup and just run cccam 2.1.3 or newer. add your boxkey and see if the channels clear then once that is working, concentrate on newcs ect

Hi guys, tried the suggestions above.

factory reset dreambox, just loaded up cccam 2.1.3 ONLY

same problem ;-(
 
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