T-Rex 4.5

[nathanvtr]

I just wondered if this Supermodule 4.5 was worth giving up my existing twin Dragon for?

I know it has its own specific files but just wondered if it could also take the standard Dragon files too, giving use for now and the future.

Does it offer any advantages over the current Dragon Cam.

 

[Mickha]

Hi nathanvtr,
the T-Rex supermodule 4.5 is the next generation of the Dragon/T-Rex cam and is more secure, allowing the Dragon team to include non-public hacks in the predasaurus firmware. The T-Rex 4.5 has opened D+ and Cabo since the 14/09 whereas, with the earlier models, we have had to wait until today to get the keys.
The Dragon team promise more packages to be opened in the future, but as with all purchases it is a gamble, although the Dragon team have got a good reputation.
Best wishes
Mickha

 

[nathanvtr]

would it allow me to use say predator 3.49 for example or will it only accept predasaurus updates

 

[Analoguesat]

It will only take its specific firmware flashes.

 

[yeahman]

Hi I've just purchased this new T-rex 4.5. I've bought and loaded the loader card via a cas 3 programmer, do I need to flash or program the cam itself? The english version of the website isn't working, and my german is scarce.

If I need to update the cam itself - how do I go about this.

Also I got a firecrypt card with the cam - does this need to be programed and what does it pick up?

 

[nathanvtr]

firecrypt ard will be for adult inxtc tv.

you can get files from the official dragon site for your t-rex, i always found when i brought cams that they had the original firmware on so it may need updating, see what it opens then you can be sure.

Where did you get it if you dont mind me asking?

 

[yeahman]

HI mate

I got it from these guys

http://www.spectrum-skytv.co.uk/index.php?option=categories&category_id=1265&prodCnt=6&sort=
thought I might as well get the latest one, it seems to be programming the cam now, hopefully it'll work fine in my Humax HDCI2000.

Do i need to update the firecrypt card - or is that already loaded and why does it have a serial number on it - do I need to do anything on the reciever end.

loads of questions - sorry mate I'm new at this all.

I've heard a celebro card is the card to get, can you advise the best one?

 

[Mickha]

Hi yeahman,
you should find a read me file and a how to file in the Predasaur folder, to update your new T-Rex supermodule 4.5 firmware always follow these basic rules:
Tune your receiver to a Free to Air channel, not encrypted.
Turn off your receiver.
Insert the loader card, chip face up, and switch on your receiver.
Use your receivers menu to navigate to the T-Rex cam, and select yes load module.
Now a menu appears indicating that loading is in progress. To see the actual porgress percentage, select "refresh". There is no auto-refresh because some receivers had problems with that....
When loading is complete, a menu appears saying "Loading successful". please REMOVE the loader card from the module, and switch off your receiver.
Turn back on the receiver, and your cam should now be loaded.
The latest firmware for your cam is Predasaurus 107_14.09 and can be found on the official site dragonmodul.com.
Best wishes
Mickha
Do not get a Cerebro card, that was for the premiere package on Astra 1 and is currently not working, it now only opens a few channels.
The card you have is an access 9, and will open INXTV on hotbird 13E or 10E, for 9 months, firecrypt is part of the firmware in the dragon Cam to allow you to use this card, just update the predasaur firmware when a new file is available.

 

[yeahman]

Thanks for the advise. I've been ahead of myself and tried updating the cam via cas3 with v7.6 software loaded.

programming the loader card was easy and successful - however the cam appeared to update fine , then suddenly it cam up with a message saying 'error reading card - select me when loader card is in' - I've tried reinserting the dummy card with cable again - to no avail and I've tried putting the loader card in - it just appears to be hanging with hour glass........

I'll try your method now - thanks for the advise - hope I haven't broken the cam as I found this on the T-rex site on programming with cam (excuse the bad translation of dutch)

"THIS GUIDE PAYS ATTENTION firstly NOT YET we
must wait for Fix van TO USE Duolabs so that the Casinterface are possible also well along with T-Rex super module 4.5 it are possible none angry hear if you try it but the process will not say continue hang at
97% that we have not warned "

 

[alexandre_m]

Hi!
Can someone help me.
Soon I will get the new T-REX 4.5.
My question is: What are the compatible receivers to have Cabo on it? Does anyone have a list?

Thnaks from Portugal!

 

[Mickha]

Hi alexandre_m,
this is a new cam, but it is just an updated version of the old Dragon cams, so in theory it should work with the same receivers as the Dragon Cam did, but until they are tested no one can guarantee it.
I haven't read any reports complaining about the cam yet, but the only people I know, who have bought it, have had older Dragon versions so I didn't expect any problems.
Please post your make/model of receiver and somebody might be able to confirm it working, but as D+ and Cabo seem down at present it might take a few days.
Best wishes
Mickha

 

[alexandre_m]

Hi alexandre_m,
this is a new cam, but it is just an updated version of the old Dragon cams, so in theory it should work with the same receivers as the Dragon Cam did, but until they are tested no one can guarantee it.
I haven't read any reports complaining about the cam yet, but the only people I know, who have bought it, have had older Dragon versions so I didn't expect any problems.
Please post your make/model of receiver and somebody might be able to confirm it working, but as D+ and Cabo seem down at present it might take a few days.
Best wishes
Mickha

Thanks, but what I want is to open Cabo. I realize now it is not possible with this CAM at the moment. But... what if I put a K3 on that? Do you think it may work? Does it work with any receiver that have a slot CI?
All these questions is because I want to start in that kind of stuff, but I realy don't know much about it. Until now I just worked with my Ouralis Evo3.
Thaks again!

 

[Mickha]

Hi alexandre_m,
the K3 D+ Cabo file has had problems in the Dragon Cam, D+ worked, Cabo didn't, for the brief time the keys were known, but since the advent of predator 350 we have not been able to check if it's working or not. The K3 Cabo file definitely worked in the X-Cam Orion, so the file wasn't the problem.
The T-Rex supermodule 4.5 has had the Cabo key embedded in the predasaur files, so obviously they worked and I haven't heard of anyone testing the K3 Cabo file in that Cam.
Hopefully when there are new D+ Cabo files produced for the K3 we can test it further.
Best wishes
Mickha

 

[alexandre_m]

Hi alexandre_m,
The T-Rex supermodule 4.5 has had the Cabo key embedded in the predasaur files, so obviously they worked

So, what you are telling me is that if I got a T-Rex supermodule 4.5 and I put there the predasaur files with the CAS3, Cabo works fine, even when keys are changed?

 

[Mickha]

Hi alexandre_m,
Cabo isn't open on anything at present, when the keys are known they seem to appear on the K3 first, the T-Rex 4.5 less than a day later and on Emu a couple of days later, then the keys change again.
The files on the K3 and T-Rex 4.5 are secured so the keys can't be extracted and published.
D+ seems to stay open longer than Cabo but the same procedure seems to follow, at the moment you have to be patient and wait for new files.
All the best
Mickha

 

[digi24]

Dear all,

I have read that subject cam is able to decode the cryptoworks-version of E! that is found on hotbird (10723 H). Is it true ?

Your input will be much appreciated !

thanks in advance

digi24

 

[Mickha]

Hi digi24,
all versions of Dragon Cam can open that channel, at the moment, it can also open other cryptowork channels including Easy TV package on Astra 1 19.2E, and Hustler on Sirius 5E.
Probably other cams, cards and patches can also open these channels, the crack has been available since we had digiturk open a few months ago.
Best wishes
Mickha

 

[_stu_]

Hi nathanvtr,
the T-Rex supermodule 4.5 is the next generation of the Dragon/T-Rex cam and is more secure, allowing the Dragon team to include non-public hacks in the predasaurus firmware.

Personally I wouldn't have put it like that, I think you are being far too generous.

My opinion is more along the lines of:

"the T-Rex supermodule 4.5 is the next generation of the Dragon/T-Rex cam and is more secure, allowing the Dragon team to encrypt hacks that would have previously been released publicly"

These encrypted cards and cams are making it very easy for the providers to fight back, as the knowledge required to get the keys out of the cards is not being released into the public domain anymore. It is because of this that they can change keys and know that they will secure their IP for the next few days, and when the keys finally get public again, then another key change is sufficient.

When the hacks were public, the providers were wide open for long periods and had to go to great lengths to secure their systems by way of card changes and sending new revisions ota.

As things stand, we face the prospect of at best intermittent viewing, and are now at the mercy of expensive cards and cams if we want to make the most of it.

I know many people will not agree, and will perpetuate the situation by funding these teams with their (hard-earned?) cash, so I'm not really complaining, just stating my point of view.

Now let the flaming begin... ;)

 

[Mickha]

Hi _stu_,
no flaming, and I agree with many of your points, but when I, and others, first started in this hobby there were very few of us, the equipment was specialised and relatively expensive.
The packages didn't find it financially worthwhile to stop so few viewing their channels, now receivers, dishes and Cams are cheap, and there are a lot more people involved, just check out the number of web sites, suppliers, and amount of people online when there is just a rumour about D+.
So providers had to fight back, they improved their encryption and allowed more versatility to upgrade the encryption without turning off their subscribers cards, this has made channels more difficult to hack, and it has become commercial, even to the point of buying information, and obviously they're in it for making money, and so sell cards, with secure files.
There are still a lot of enthusiasts left but they have generally moved with the times and got dreamboxes and found other ways of constant viewing.
The good old days are unlikely to return and this is now the way it will be, but if you're in it for the hobby you still have a lot of choice, and if you're in it to view channels without a subscription, don't expect the providers to sit back and allow it otherwise they wont stay in business long.
I still enjoy this hobby, it's far better than being stuck with terrestrial TV.
Best wishes
Mickha

 

[yeahman]

how very interesting this thread has become. Now i'm beginning to realise I should've waited for the dreambox 8000 rather than buying my Humax HDCI2k and T-rex4.5! Or is there a way of imputting new keys daily to keep up with the changes? Also could someone explain to me what D+ and Cabo are? please