Many thanks - I have been scouring the satellite frequency lists on Lyngsat and also printed media i.e What Satellite. I watched Tele-Club first in 1988 when it was only one of a handful of channels, it used to broadcast from THE I say THE, because there was only the one that I know of - Eutelsat - at that time; it was shown in the clear, but later scrambled in the old "wobbly" type Film Net encryption. I had a decoder (big box), for Film Net and also for Premier that was broadcast off of Intelsat, these are pre-Astra days, Sky channel also came along (as did Super Channel), but it wasn't owned by Murdock then, two enterprising ladies set up a studio in an office in London and broadcast the Sky channel from there, it was a bit like the old Live TV, UK Cable channel. I live very near to where High-Tec Extravision had their work shops and used to go there the chat to the then hackers, and purchase my equipment for viewing, Chris, I can't remember his surname owned the company - I think he is in prison at present, because laterly he allegedly marketed Sky analogue hack cards and was eventually prosecuted - he may be out now or has escaped - I'm not absolutely sure, shame really, he gave a lot of people, a lot of fun. Although he probably made a mint - good luck to him.