Those two channels are part of the ADD Pehla package. From what I hear, they are moving all their channels to the 11304 transponder, which has a smaller footprint, which avoids the middle east. This is to prevent viewers in the middle east from watching these channels as it is illegal for them to do so.
No the Pehla channels (SET, SET MAX, NDTV, Deepam,ATN Bangla, Ten sports) require a subscription, which is actually quite hard to find in Europe. The most of the channels are currently located on hotbird 4 10723, but this is accessable in the middle east. Ten sports used to be located at 10723 a while back, but it was stopped after people in middle east were found to be subscribing to pehla, instead of their provider. All the channels are going to hotbird 1 11304 to prevent this from happening again.
To put it simply, the channels are gone, and will not be back unless a major hack occurs, or unless you buy a Pehla Europe subscription
yeah i know pay for it but how how can i get sony back in my satelite dish ??????? is there any new transponder or what before i november it was also closed but it opened again maybe it will also be open soon