Transparent Dish ???

katfish

katfish

Pc Nerd
My Satellite Setup
Triple Dragon
My Location
Tunbridge Wells
I wonder if anybody has tried one of theses and can let me know if they are any-good.

As i live in apartment the estate company has told me i can have my own dish as long as it don't stand out like a sore thumb.

So i sent them the link of a Transparent dish and i have it in writing that i can have one but b 4 i go ahead and get one i need to know how good they are compared to metal dishes
 
What size dish are you looking at, and which satellites do you hope to receive?
I have read that they do underperform, compared to equivalent metal dishes, but I don't know by how much.
You could also consider getting a brick colour dish, or having one painted.
 
I will be looking at getting th 85cm one and the sats i would like to pick up MIN are a Astra, Hotbird and the Sky satellite theses are the min ones i want to pick up.
 
No problem, used a couple of the 85cm transparent dishes for motorised and performed fine.
 
Thanks
So when you used yours what sats did you pick up with it?
 
Usual satellites that one would receive with an 80cm, 42e through to 30w.
 
Thank you i think i will go ahead and get one then as they are a good price at the mo and should go nice with my Triple Dragon
 
I've got pics of my transparent dish in this thread: http://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/...stems/159638-inverto-multiconnect-system.html

I have reception problems, but that is due to the fact that I got obstructions in the way and I'm in Finland where signals aren't as strong. Reception of Astra 1, Hotbird and the Sky should be very easy for you and I'm sure you'll get more.

However, personally I think a dish the same colour as its background would be less obvious in most cases. I wanted the transparency to let a bit of light through as my dish is installed on a balcony next to a window.
 
I own an 85cm transparent in the north east of Enlgand. I pick up 42,39e,28e,23e,19e,13e,1w,8w,30w no problem ...and some 16e,9e.

I also reccomend a fracarro penta 85cm dish ...they are equivalent to a 1m dish in performance, you can get brick colour.
 
I had to take one down a few months ago (illegal install). When I tested it against a standard 65cm dish, it had about the same gain at 11GHz, but at 12.5GHz is was a good 40% lower.
 
dasteelman said:
I own an 85cm transparent in the north east of Enlgand. I pick up 42,39e,28e,23e,19e,13e,1w,8w,30w no problem ...and some 16e,9e.

I also reccomend a fracarro penta 85cm dish ...they are equivalent to a 1m dish in performance, you can get brick colour.
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Can you point me in the right direction for the brick one please so i can forward that on to the estate manager.
 
_http://www.hdshoponline.co.uk/penta-85-satellite-antenna-aluminium-144-p.asp

has no one on this forum heard of google :)
 
Also i have tried to understand the legal side of things but i can not make sense of it this is my situation.

I live in a 1st floor apartment.
There is 4 floors so building is over 15m.
On the roof of the building there is a TV aerial, A sky sat dish and FM aerial.

Whats the max size i can go to and can i have a dish?
 
If you have a south facing single glazed window....a dish will be ok inside the house for 28'e 19'e,13'e

google satellite dish planning permision uk
 
Channel Hopper said:
I had to take one down a few months ago (illegal install). When I tested it against a standard 65cm dish, it had about the same gain at 11GHz, but at 12.5GHz is was a good 40% lower.
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Damn, seriously? Might explain some of my reception issues in Helsinki I suppose. When I checked the quoted gain figures on web sites I thought they seemed about the same as a normal 80cm dish. Now I'm wondering if I should buy a normal solid 80cm and try that...
 
dasteelman said:
If you have a south facing single glazed window....a dish will be ok inside the house for 28'e 19'e,13'e

google satellite dish planning permision uk
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My apartment is all double glazed and the glass is triple A rated etc as its a new build so the dish would need to go outside and i have already looked at the planning side of it but could not make sense of it that's why i asked the question.
If everything could be googled what's the point of forums (To help ppl with less experience and give them advice I hope)
 
katfish said:
Also i have tried to understand the legal side of things but i can not make sense of it this is my situation.

I live in a 1st floor apartment.
There is 4 floors so building is over 15m.
On the roof of the building there is a TV aerial, A sky sat dish and FM aerial.

Whats the max size i can go to and can i have a dish?
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Depends if the build is listed or in a conservation area. Without digging for notes, I think it's no more than 100cm in size.
 
Thanks its not listed i know that for sure and as for conservation i don't think it is as its right on main road and stuck right in between 2 petrol stations The site use to be a BMW main dealer garage b 4 it was made to apartments.

it was just the height and the amount of aerials and dish's you are allowed to have by planning law
 
Houses and buildings up to 15 metres high

Unless your house (or the building in which you live) is in a designated area, you do not need to apply for planning permission to install an antenna on your property, as long as:

*there will be no more than two antennas on the property overall. (These may be on the front or back of the building, on the roof, attached to the chimney, or in the garden);
*if you are installing a single antenna, it is not more than 100 centimetres in any linear dimension (b) (not including any projecting feed element (c), reinforcing rim, mounting and brackets);
*if you are installing two antennas, one is not more than 100 centimetres in any linear dimension, and the other is not more than 60 centimetres in any linear dimension (not including any projecting feed element, reinforcing rim, mounting and brackets);
*the cubic capacity (d) of each individual antenna is not more than 35 litres;
*an antenna fitted onto a chimney stack is not more than 60 centimetres in any linear dimension; and
*an antenna mounted on the roof only sticks out above the roof when there is a chimney-stack. In this case, the antenna should not stick out more than 60 centimetres above the highest part of the roof, or above the highest part of the chimney stack, whichever is lower.


b. Linear dimension: This means taking the measurement in a straight line, starting from the edge of the antenna to the opposite edge of the antenna. The measurement should only include the antenna itself and not any attachment needed to fix it to the wall or roof, or connect it up to your equipment.

c. Projecting feed element: In a dish antenna, the incoming signals are received by the dish which then ‘reflects’ the signal into a central ‘feed horn’. This is usually positioned at a short distance (a few inches) away from the dish and held in place by projecting arm or arms.

d. cubic capacity: This means the volume (the amount of in 3 dimensions) occupied by an object using known method of measurement.




Buildings 15m or more in height

Unless your building is in a designated area, you do not need to apply for planning permission to install a dish or other antenna on your property, as long as:

* there will be no more than four antennas on the building overall;
*the size of any antenna is not more than 130 centimetres in any linear dimension (not including any projecting feed element, reinforcing rim, mounting and brackets);
*the cubic capacity of each individual antenna is not more than 35 litres;
*an antenna fitted onto a chimney stack is not more than 60 centimetres in any linear dimension; and
*an antenna mounted on the roof does not stick out above the roof more than 300 centimetres above the highest part of the roof.

Source: planningportal.gov.uk

Also documented in the dish set up section http://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/...ms/51478-new-uk-dish-planning-guidelines.html
 
Thats what i read and according to that then yes i can i was just unsure about the 4 antenna rule as being an apartment is that 4 antennas per apartment or over all?

and the building is over 15m but dose that apply to the building its self or per apartment?

I ask as i have apartment block down the road which has dish's all over it which going by the rule is illegal as there is more than 4 antennas more like 40 of them.
 
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