TRIAX TD88 vs FRACARRO PENTA 85

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Swapped Dish on DiSEqC motor resulting in better noise margin all round.
A well built dish that performs excellent :)

Results taken from Technomate 5200d Signal Quality info screen:

Results showing quality reading:

:)

> 1w THOR 11.325h before: 92% Now: 95%

> 9e 11823h Before: 80% Now: 84%

> 16e 10.957h Before: 66% Now: 72%

> 16e 11.451h Before: 81% Now: 86%

> 23.5e 10.862h Before: 97% Now: 98%

> 26e 11.819h Before: 58% Now: 58%

> 39e 12.606h Before: 94% Now: 98%

> 42e 11897v Before: 89% Now 89%

> 8w 10.972 Before: 76% Now: 84%

> 30w 11.683v Before: 77% Now 75%

> 30w 12.456v Before: 95% Now: 96%

Satman :)
 

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That's quite impressive Satman, did it bring in any channels which were iffy before?
 

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No not really but an improved noise margin and BER for sure :D
 

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I've always been dubious about the "better than a 1m" claims, it probably is better than some poor quality 1m dishes around at the moment, but due to its compact and high quality build, I would certainly choose it over and above the Triax TD88.
 

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interesting results, not sure that i'd buy one though
 

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You would do well Wod.
The results speak for them self. The dish when up, doesn't look as big although the PENTA is wider :D
 

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How wide is it to the end of the pointy bits?


Great results SM, certainly the improvement is obvious for 16E.
 

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Satelliteman

Out of curiosity, what made you vhange the T&K position from the old setup to the new setup?
 

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Thanks rolf, that explains it a bit (I think),
I'm surprised the performance on 26E has not shown an improvement though.:confused
 

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kubo said:
Satelliteman

Out of curiosity, what made you vhange the T&K position from the old setup to the new setup?

Just raised the dish a fraction and mounted one bracket above the other.

* Checked again this morning in clear skies, signal levels / quality even better. The 'after' results above were taken on cloudy dull day*

Thanks rolf, that explains it a bit (I think),
I'm surprised the performance on 26E has not shown an improvement though.

Yes no improvement on Mbc beam 26e. Alignment is spot on :D

Happy days :)
 

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I just fitted the Fracarro Penta 85 yesterday evening,

It started getting too windy so I left the job unfinished, I still need to get the alignment spot on, but Its looking good so far.

The only thing I did not like much about it was the pivot point on bracket.

Its just a small indentation on either side. I found that when I would tighten slightly to make small adjustments to dish declination/elevation, There was not enough grip in the small indent and the whole thing tended to want to pull out of the out of its pivot point during adjustment.

This is only a small problem, but it made things slightly harder when I was on the roof with only had one had free for adjustment:)

Otherwise I'm happy with my purchase.:cool:
 

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Just to follow on briefly, and although the signal were the same from both dishes on Badr at 26.0°E only, there seems to be less rain fade attenuation on the Mbc beam with the PENTA, so overall a good result :)
 

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thanks for all the posts guys...great reading and input..now i will defo get one of these speically as it give a lower noise. my lidl 80cm dish is very resonant on my darkmotor ... so better sigs in rain and quieter too..great stuff...

for satelliteman....are you using the steel or aluminium? thnk ill go for aluminium but grateful any thoughts on this..


post note 2: i really want to improve my setup not only by a few DB gain but quieter operation too.....now to research a single lnb to go with it..
 

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satkitten said:
thanks for all the posts guys...great reading and input..now i will defo get one of these speically as it give a lower noise. my lidl 80cm dish is very resonant on my darkmotor ... so better sigs in rain and quieter too..great stuff...
satelliteman is referring to a different kind of noise than what you are talking about. Its to do with signal interference rather than audible sound.

My Penta doesn't make any noise when its moving, Its pretty much the same as moving the motor with no dish attached.
 

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thanks for those comments.....very gratefull
 

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Go for an aluminium PENTA if you can although the Steel version is only around 8Kg - 9Kg I believe.

Noise Margin or Carrier to Noise (Known as CNR OR C/N)

A measurement of the received carrier strength relative to the strength of the received noise floor in a specified bandwidth.

SM :)
 

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nods in agreement, aye, i think thats the best way to go for me....ill get a db or two gain over a metronic 80cm clear...i guess 8-10db over this lidl 80cm solid HEAVY steal dish, which is kinda noisy....and being ali..it will be lighter and quieter...i think a good alround investment....i see it comes with a 0.6 fracaro lnb...so ill give that a go before getting (if i need one) one of those 0.2 ones.....anyway....ill order it tomorrow..fit it while im four days off next week...and post my comments here.......ill try and take some comparisons of the old 80cm dish against this 85cm one...i know the stronger sats will not be much diff..but as long as we can get a more stable pic in rainy wx on 1w and sports feeds on 12.5w will be happier.....but...i guess ill never be happy till i win the lotto buy a house on a big high mountain and then a m A S S I V e dish to get abolutely everything lol.....thanks again ..your da man....regards mike
 

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got me dish...all setup....lots of improvement, and less mechanically noisy too!
 
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