TRIAX TD88 vs FRACARRO PENTA 85

[satelliteman]

and less mechanically noisy too

Is that right

p.s glad your up and running

 

[satkitten]

yep dats right...its quite a bit quieter....the lidl 80cm was very noisy due to it being tin/steel.....the new dish is a tad heavier! but noticable improvement when "motoring"! still noiser moving west though...and it seems a 10% and more signal strength improvement all round....even managed to watch a sports feed last night on 12.5W at a constant 50% in drizzle and lots of cloud.....(usually 23-30% and lots of breakup)...bit disapointed it didnt come with the universal 0.6lnb as stated on the specs....so im just waiting for a new lnb ordered (strong 0.2)....

 

[satelliteman]

0.2dB should show overall better performance over a 0.6dB.... assuming these are true figures of course.

Good going

 

[satkitten]

just to update my findings on the fracarro 85cm alluminium....as there seems to be a few peeps in various forums wondering about them..

My original setup was an 80cm steel or tin dish with 0.6 uni lnb from lidl. this was very good for fixed/strong sats, and quite acceptable for weaker sats, but in rain...pffft.....i have now motorised my system with a darkmotor and found the vibrations of the motor went through the dish making the whole thing a tad noisy.

the new dish is much quieter when moving and here are some examples of improvements read in similar conditons. lots of low cloud/drizzle

SAT Freq Pol. Channel 80cm Lidl 85cm Fracarro
12.5W 12515 H LA7 0% 50%
12612 V Sports Feed 30% 50%
1W 12723 H Ani Plani 45% 58%
13E 12597 V BBC world 55% 63%
16E 11449 H Supersports 0% 40%

Basically a tremendous improvement in receiption and the "squarial" look of the fracarro is brill......a worthwhile investment and recommended to anyone......although i have to fine tune on a sunny day im more than happy with it now.....the strong sats are fine of course and even get a bit more from them too.... might get another one fixed setup soon...

 

[guest poster]

Satkitten.. Have you tried 26e and MBC2 on that yet? The acid test for that dish I think.. (although it might be a bit unpredictable at the moment with BADR6 coming on line). We used to get it on a Lydle 80cm in central UK on a TM1000- no real rain fade though.

.. they do look striking....but 26e is a must..:mad:

Satelliteman... what LNBf did you use.. the same one as before or one that came with it?

Anyone.... recommend a really good LNBf match...? should be theirs really.... I think it needs a custom feed horn with scala rings that shape...

We had some (audible) noise problems with certain steal dishes on cheapo 2100's - the dish acted like an amplifier/ speaker... wow...changed them to gen branded motors ...

 

[satelliteman]

Satkitten.. Have you tried 26e and MBC2 on that yet? The acid test for that dish I think.. (although it might be a bit unpredictable at the moment with BADR6 coming on line). We used to get it on a Lydle 80cm in central UK on a TM1000- no real rain fade though.

.. they do look striking....but 26e is a must..:mad:

Satelliteman... what LNBf did you use.. the same one as before or one that came with it?

Anyone.... recommend a really good LNBf match...? should be theirs really.... I think it needs a custom feed horn with scala rings that shape...

We had some (audible) noise problems with certain steal dishes on cheapo 2100's - the dish acted like an amplifier/ speaker... wow...changed them to gen branded motors ...

No LNb came with it. I had the dish supplied without.

I used a 0.3dB Invacom Twin.

SM

 

[satkitten]

nope..not had time for a scan over there yet..with the weather and me gammy leg (aww poor me!) and now im back into shifts till next monday mornin.....then four days for for a play...ill report back...hope to fine tweak it all up......but me thinks she will get me to do the bathroom decorating done first .. oh well...ill get back next week...thanks guys.


quick update 20:43BSt....just had a quick scan of that sat...most tps seem to be 40% with that particular TP only 27% with dropout...weather is pretty fine.....maybe when i fine tune i can get db or two more....is it worth watching..or is it just arabic channel? cul

UPDATE 2 2049bst....MY POLE IS BENT !! JUST WENT TO FLEX DISH TO SEE IF ITS OUT OF ALIGNMENT...ON PULLING ME SUPPOSIDLY HORIZONTAL POLE BACK A TAD I GET 35% AND SOLID SIGNAL..OOH A FILM IS ON....MUST FINE TUNE AND ADJUST IF ITS BRIGHTER NEXT WEEK.....

 

[satkitten]

had a quick lood last night...the pole is hardly off centre at all ..i think i may have set the motor elevation slightly off....ill play later....ill delete all these posts later too...or if im not allowed perhaps satelliteman can do it..to tidy up this thread ...as my likkle messages are kinda takin over?....then ill post a new update when i finished realligning...tonite hopefully as its lovely out right now.. tks guys..mikey

update 21:15.....moved motor elevation from 51n to 50.3 ish north....readjusted dish...seem to get better arc now...32% on mbc tps......final post.....cant delete if required

 

[dasteelman]

going to buy a 85 cm brick colour Fracarro from eb@y

 

[satkitten]

you wont regret it....mine is doing a wonderful job at holding pictures and sound during bad weather on 12.5w 10e and 7e feeds....

 

[rolfw]

going to buy a 85 cm brick colour Fracarro from eb@y

Why not buy from one of our forum supporting advertisers, one of them is a Fracarro distributor.

 

[compufunk]

Why not buy from one of our forum supporting advertisers, one of them is a Fracarro distributor.

And is also just about the only one selling them on ebay.

As a past customer, I would recommend them.

 

[dasteelman]

I will do fella's when I get paid on Monday

 

[wod]

i wish they would do a larger version of this dish, then i would get one why not an 105cm version ?

 

[rolfw]

And is also just about the only one selling them on ebay.

As a past customer, I would recommend them.

Yes, but if you follow their link from the forum, they will know that the business came from here.;)

 

[dasteelman]

on the subject of the Fracarro aluminium and the steel....i presume that the quality is the same.....just the actual weight?

 

[satelliteman]

Also the aluminium version should last longer and not rust.
I have only ever used the Penta steel dish and they weren't that heavy.
I believe Rolf has used both versions

 

[rolfw]

Yes, purely a weight issue if you take corrosion out of the frame.

 

[LAURO2008]

Swapped Dish on DiSEqC motor resulting in better noise margin all round.
A well built dish that performs excellent

Results taken from Technomate 5200d Signal Quality info screen:

Results showing quality reading:



> 1w THOR 11.325h before: 92% Now: 95%

> 9e 11823h Before: 80% Now: 84%

> 16e 10.957h Before: 66% Now: 72%

> 16e 11.451h Before: 81% Now: 86%

> 23.5e 10.862h Before: 97% Now: 98%

> 26e 11.819h Before: 58% Now: 58%

> 39e 12.606h Before: 94% Now: 98%

> 42e 11897v Before: 89% Now 89%

> 8w 10.972 Before: 76% Now: 84%

> 30w 11.683v Before: 77% Now 75%

> 30w 12.456v Before: 95% Now: 96%

Satman

Dear Satman,

I don't get what was your previous dish.

The best LNB which goes with a Penta85 is the Inverto IDPL-40SL+ ;)

Here in The Netherlands is almost impossible to get a Penta 85...do you have any advice?

Thanks in advance for your feed back.

 

[compufunk]

Here in The Netherlands is almost impossible to get a Penta 85...do you have any advice?

I'm sure one of the site sponsors would be happy to post you one.
http://www.satellites.co.uk/index.php?page=sponsors