Vinyl v MP3/CD v Digital

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you will never hear a cd version of old record to sound better than vinyl
 

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you will never hear a cd version of old record to sound better than vinyl
I agree ....totally ..
but flac does come close ..it being uncompressed data
...but needs much more storage space on a NAS..
Close second to Vinyl and convenience of access.
 

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I have to say, the person (or persons) who wrote the article didn't do their research...

Think of the comparison of Analogue audio versus Digital audio as a comparison between proper typing and "txt spk", the former you get the full description with everything kept in it as it should be, the other you get in a reduced format with bits missing that can often lose their way in translating from "txt spk" to human speech, just as you can lose certain frequencies with digital audio with the way it cuts up the sound into bits and pieces and then formulates a digitised approximation of the original analogue source.

Yes vinyl has its drawbacks (E.G. mentioned in another thread, the inner track issues where the sibilance skyrockets because of the way it's recorded and the way the record spins faster on the outside than on the inside), but at the end of the day, it's real, can't be accidentally deleted, isn't subject to magnetic interference causing loss of data/audio tracks (like audio tape, seeing how that is just sticky tape and rust) and can outlast even the highest quality pressed CD... :)
 

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All the ghostly sounds that are lost when you compress to mp3

I remember an interview with the Swedish guitar player Clas Yngström how he first came to listen to Jimi Hendrix on Radio Luxemburg and the AM fades and all made it a supernatural, out of this world, ufo sound. When he finally got his hand on a vinyl he was somewhat disappointed with the clear sound - the magic was gone.

When I first heard Joe Satriani's "Crush of Love" it was from a flexible 45 rpm (remember those?) included in a Magazine (Guitar Player, I think) and was blown away by the heaviness of the music only to be disappointed by the cold, dry sound on the cd. Turntables add a lot of bass, don't they?

Van Halen's reunion with David Lee Roth. Great on the preview on Howard Stern's radio show, boring and dull on cd.

On Spotify there's (or used to be) a demo version of Mr Big's "Green-tinted sixties mind", it sound as they're rehearsing but it has a live feeling to it that I like. You get to appreciate their talents.

I think you get used to a certain color of a sound and don't want it to sound any other way but I wouldn't say that vinyl is better than cd. Another killer, to me, is bad d/a-converters. When I bought my first soundcard I picked the the priciest in the store, Soundblaster AWE32, and it was just awful compared to a decent cd player. Even if I played uncompressed audio there was no dynamics or transients left. Cheap d/a-s are probably better today than 20 years ago. I hope.
 

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Turntables add a lot of bass, don't they?

Yes, they do... :D

My Pioneer 3MC cartridge is a really bassy barsteward though, my PX21 headset was pretty much rattling when playing things like Four Score and Jerry Rafferty's Baker Street, and the same records with my AT95e, not as bassy, still pretty punchy, just not at the same epicness as the 3MC... :D
 
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