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bim

bim

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humax foxsat Thomson Tsr200 Pace 3100 Black pro quad dvbs2 80 and 100cm dishes
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croatia Lat 45.3301 Lon 14.1822
Hi all been a long time since I've been on the forum a lot of new names on here now!!
Need some advice on the best receiver for 11495 v 44100-9/10 lntelsat 907 27 w
Ease of use is important (l haven't got much better! !! ) aac codec
Any info and experience would be much appreciated
 
RustySpoons

RustySpoons

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My Satellite Setup
50E - 30W
2x CM 1.2m Polar Mount/Jack
65E- 65W
Gibertini 1m OP100 - STAB HH100 - Inverto Black Ultra 0.2 Twin
Mutant HD51
Edision Primo IP S2
Dreambox DM800HD
Venton Unibox HD2
Sony Bravia 55" 4K
My Location
South Wales
If you want a Non E2 Receiver a lot of us on here can recommend the Edision Primo IP S2 or Octagon SX88+
I will check this Sat/Transponder on mine shortly to check it all works :)

*EDIT*
Getting this transponder full scale signal on the Edision Primo IP S2 but not seeing any channels on the transponder, if anyone has a SX88+ can they check this one?
 
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Mickha

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1.2M Channel Master, 1224 motor, VU+ Duo 2
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They are the BBC, and other English channels. RustySpoons, to open them you need the latest BISS keys, also you might need to edit the PIDS, to get the Audio working.
I have read of them opening using an Oscam-Emu cam, on E2 receivers, like the VU+, but there are other receivers, that seem to be easier.
 
RustySpoons

RustySpoons

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My Satellite Setup
50E - 30W
2x CM 1.2m Polar Mount/Jack
65E- 65W
Gibertini 1m OP100 - STAB HH100 - Inverto Black Ultra 0.2 Twin
Mutant HD51
Edision Primo IP S2
Dreambox DM800HD
Venton Unibox HD2
Sony Bravia 55" 4K
My Location
South Wales
They are the BBC, and other English channels. RustySpoons, to open them you need the latest BISS keys, also you might need to edit the PIDS, to get the Audio working.
I have read of them opening using an Oscam-Emu cam, on E2 receivers, like the VU+, but there are other receivers, that seem to be easier.
I know whats needed to open them but wasn't sure about mentioning it on here, thats why I suggested those 2 boxes as they can do things from the remote.
I'm currently editing the satellites.xml file on the Edision by hand to see if I can manually set the FEC etc as it does not auto detect it.
 
Lazarus

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80cm Motorised.
Several small Dishes.
Much else.
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North York Moors
The modified Primo Firmware includes Oscam ..... will try this tomorrow.
 
RustySpoons

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My Satellite Setup
50E - 30W
2x CM 1.2m Polar Mount/Jack
65E- 65W
Gibertini 1m OP100 - STAB HH100 - Inverto Black Ultra 0.2 Twin
Mutant HD51
Edision Primo IP S2
Dreambox DM800HD
Venton Unibox HD2
Sony Bravia 55" 4K
My Location
South Wales
The modified Primo Firmware includes Oscam ..... will try this tomorrow.
Also has THCAM, but that won't help you at the moment as the box won't tune that transponder, I will suss this out this evening :)
 
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Cristor Atlas 100HD , motorised 1.1 Triax on Stab H-H
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hastings , uk
Technomate TM-5402
 
Captain Jack

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Or Dr HD...
 
RustySpoons

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My Satellite Setup
50E - 30W
2x CM 1.2m Polar Mount/Jack
65E- 65W
Gibertini 1m OP100 - STAB HH100 - Inverto Black Ultra 0.2 Twin
Mutant HD51
Edision Primo IP S2
Dreambox DM800HD
Venton Unibox HD2
Sony Bravia 55" 4K
My Location
South Wales
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Mickha

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North West
The modified Primo Firmware includes Oscam ..... will try this tomorrow.
Some Oscam configurations don't work, I know of a couple of modified Oscam files, that do work, but the main viewers, people abroad, who can no longer pick up UK channels, on Astra 2, due to the change over to the UK Spot beam, seem to prefer the Technomate receivers, or other simple receivers, that require little work.

Equally there is no guarantee as to how long they will last, although they don't seem to bother updating their encryption methods, to stop viewing, but that could change.
 
bim

bim

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My Satellite Setup
humax foxsat Thomson Tsr200 Pace 3100 Black pro quad dvbs2 80 and 100cm dishes
My Location
croatia Lat 45.3301 Lon 14.1822
Thanks all that has jogged my memory from a few years ago if I remember correctl
The technomate lists the channel line up and the keys are straightforward to install.
Any one on the continent using this box feed back would be appreciated
 
Lazarus

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80cm Motorised.
Several small Dishes.
Much else.
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North York Moors
Some Oscam configurations don't work, I know of a couple of modified Oscam files, that do work, but the main viewers, people abroad, who can no longer pick up UK channels, on Astra 2, due to the change over to the UK Spot beam, seem to prefer the Technomate receivers, or other simple receivers, that require little work.

Equally there is no guarantee as to how long they will last, although they don't seem to bother updating their encryption methods, to stop viewing, but that could change.

The freely available modifed Firmware for the Edision Primo claims success with 27.5W.

Neither Rusty nor I have yet succeeded in proving the case, but are working on it.
 
Adam792

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Dishes: 80cm (5°W/4.8°E), 80cm (30°W), 60cm Zone 2 (13°E/19.2°E/28.2°E)
Receivers: HTPC (Intel i3 processor, nVidia Graphics, and TBS6905 4x DVB-S2 PCIe tuner card) running Ubuntu with Kodi/TVHeadend, Wetek Play2, Skybox M3.
My Location
Worcester
The freely available modifed Firmware for the Edision Primo claims success with 27.5W.

Neither Rusty nor I have yet succeeded in proving the case, but are working on it.
I've tried this too and it doesn't work on the Edision that I can tell.

The problem isn't that it can't lock the transponder, but that no services scan in because of the scrambled PMT.

The solution would be to find a way to add channels manually, but I can't find a compatible channel editor. The box will save its channel list to USB in Enigma 2 format as well as its own format database, but will only read the channel list from its own format file that I can tell. So dreamboxEdit etc don't work.
 
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^^^^^^ Presactamento
 
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Although I can scan the channels just fine on the F15, I would still have to edit the PIDs on my PC in order to view the channels (as well as add keys). I remember this package liked changing PID "encryption" (i.e. not including them in PMT table) in the past...

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Laminas 1.2M fibre dish with an IBU, on a Clarke Tech USALS motor, covering 57E - 24.5W to an Octagon SX88. Displayed on a 20" Dyon LED TV.

Seperate 80 cm dish on 28E with a Humax Freesat for SWMBO.
Free Sat V8 meter. Sony Bravia 46" LCD, Sony BluRay and Home Cinema.
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RustySpoons

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My Satellite Setup
50E - 30W
2x CM 1.2m Polar Mount/Jack
65E- 65W
Gibertini 1m OP100 - STAB HH100 - Inverto Black Ultra 0.2 Twin
Mutant HD51
Edision Primo IP S2
Dreambox DM800HD
Venton Unibox HD2
Sony Bravia 55" 4K
My Location
South Wales
RustySpoons

RustySpoons

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2,336
My Satellite Setup
50E - 30W
2x CM 1.2m Polar Mount/Jack
65E- 65W
Gibertini 1m OP100 - STAB HH100 - Inverto Black Ultra 0.2 Twin
Mutant HD51
Edision Primo IP S2
Dreambox DM800HD
Venton Unibox HD2
Sony Bravia 55" 4K
My Location
South Wales
I've tried this too and it doesn't work on the Edision that I can tell.

The problem isn't that it can't lock the transponder, but that no services scan in because of the scrambled PMT.

The solution would be to find a way to add channels manually, but I can't find a compatible channel editor. The box will save its channel list to USB in Enigma 2 format as well as its own format database, but will only read the channel list from its own format file that I can tell. So dreamboxEdit etc don't work.
Yes I've been playing around with this, if you edit the satellites.xml and other things the box just default them back to what they were.
I think what they are doing is emulating the E2 satellite config settings by using a cut down version of these files which are only for use with a compatible programme for cross compatibility, the box seems to copy these settings to another location. It doesn't actually use them directly.
Editing transponders does not work using FTP or E2 editing softwares, however E-Channelizer will connect to the box and upload/download, I recon that might stand a good chance of importing channels. I have a E2 box here and will quickly try and dump 27.5W from the Mutant and load it on to the Edision... Will report back shortly.
 
RustySpoons

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2,336
My Satellite Setup
50E - 30W
2x CM 1.2m Polar Mount/Jack
65E- 65W
Gibertini 1m OP100 - STAB HH100 - Inverto Black Ultra 0.2 Twin
Mutant HD51
Edision Primo IP S2
Dreambox DM800HD
Venton Unibox HD2
Sony Bravia 55" 4K
My Location
South Wales
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