Windows 10 data collection

[PaulR]

Ditch Outlook and use a different email client such as Thunderbird.

Simples.

 

[Lazarus]

Quite so.

Plus one for Thunderbird. Used it for donkey's years on a variety of Windows editions and Linux distros and it was the first programme I installed on my Win 10 device.

 

[jeallen01]

Manic

That does not seem to have happened to the PC I "upgraded" yesterday (virtually nothing on it anyway) but how did you fix it as it might happen to one of the others (or to someonelse's)?

Thanks in advance

 

[4wd]

Ditch Outlook and use a different email client such as Thunderbird.

TBird here for years, it's excellent+++. Many good addons available. Can be customised from very simple to very advanced, according to needs and wishes. Am using very basic layout, similar to the good old Windows Mail.

 

[2cvbloke]

With regard to the annoying "we're going to install this whether you choose to or not" thing, go into your installed updates through Windows update and remove KB3035593, when that's done, let WU scan for new updates (usually takes about a month to do so) and when it's done, block KB3035583 from ever installing, and that's the Win10 virus eliminated...

 

[william-1]

Using Never10 I found these & removed them again:-

Spyware W7
KB3080149

Spyware W10
KB3035583
KB2952664

If you stay with W10 be aware that you are not issued a licence number with the W-10 upgrade so if you get a problem after July 2016 you may need to buy a new W operating system as you will not be able to go back to your original version after the trial period so I have been told by some pc technicians.

My only valid licence is for W-7
I have tried W-10 on my desktop,laptop & notebook but prefer W-7.

 

[A nonymous]

Not technically correct. Dont ask me how it does it but it seems to licence the machine automatically if Windows 10 has been installed before on it. Everytime i have re-installed Windows 10 on my old Dell Vostro it activates if i dont put a key in during the install.

As for the read only files i had to use Takeownership before i could remove the read only attributes. Each main folder had to be done separately which took an age on a nearly full 2TB HDD.

http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-take-ownership-and-get-full-access-to-files-and-folders-in-windows-10/

 

[4wd]

seems to licence the machine automatically

afaik... recent pc's got oem licence key embedded in motherboard\bios, so reinstalling the original os or a legit upgrade will always be accepted. ...or\and in addition, something about learning the hardware of a pc on first install, and combining that into the activation.

Have clean installed w10 versions a dozen times on test-laptop (orig. w8.1 oem), always activating with no code needed, and can revert to 8.1 anytime, activating as well (hd swap). After july 30, free testing-playing time will probably be over.

And exactly how any 7\8 retail (full) licence will behave after a free upgrade to 10, I am still trying to understand.

edit: great, Wales ! :O)

 

[skomedal]

If you stay with W10 be aware that you are not issued a licence number with the W-10 upgrade so if you get a problem after July 2016 you may need to buy a new W operating system as you will not be able to go back to your original version after the trial period
My only valid licence is for W-7

Will download free upgrade on monday ( no thunderstorms then ) to one of my spare lappies ( win7 ).

If not happy can use one of these progs to erase WIN10 ( killdisk or Darik's Boot And Nuke ) then reload the WIN7 ISO and activate it by surreptitious ways ( as the original licence number will be invalid then ).


A Full Review of DBAN, a Free Data Destruction Software Tool

Regards

 

[A nonymous]

My old Vostro came with Vista installed so i'm not sure why it keeps activating with no problems.

 

[jeallen01]

Yesterday was Bad News Day for W10 upgrades!

The upgrade on the old Dell (2008 vintage 1525) running W7 Pro 32 bit went so far and then failed, but at least it did then automatically restore to W7 quite well, and so that seems OK.

OTOH, the little ASUS nettop (1225C with 4GB of RAM, so it's not short in that area, although the AMD processor is short of grunt) running W7 Home Premium 64 bit is in the doo-doo
- initially it could not download the W10 updates when I allowed it to, and got no further
- rebooted and started the process without letting it try to do the updates, and it eventually got to the W10 desktop, but did not seem to be running very happily and so I tried to install System Mechanic Pro (as on all the other machines) to clean up the system. That did not start well because it would not accept my paid-for Licence Key and so had to try go into Trial Mode, but before I could do that, the machine appeared to "stutter".

Can't remember exactly what happened, but it offered to go into Recovery Mode to roll back to W7 and so I told it to do that - and that's when the REAL problems started. Left it try to do the roll-back overnight but it had not got very far this morning.

Multiple reboots appeared to have got somewhere near the W7 config but it would not boot and the only option at that point seemed to be Startup Repair mode, but that did not work, and it does not seem to be able to get anywhere and in Normal Start Up there is a BS showing memory errors and collecting data - and then it automatically reboots ( I think part of the Repair mode problem, which also affected it in W7 mode, is that I partitioned the disk, as I normally do, and, even though the hidden System Partition is still there, it cannot seem to find it).

Rebooted many times, hit F8 to get the boot-up options list and have tried most of them - booting to Safe Mode gets as far as the log on screen for me to enter the local user password - but the keyboard is then not working, so I can't!

Tried the Repair Mode Advanced Options (again) and that told me to log on as a local user, which I did, but that then got only so far and then the machine bombed and restarted, but now done the same again and managed to get to the Command prompt, so running Chkdsk/f to see if that might fix something but it did not.

What this all seems to be telling me so far is that the upgrade appears to go quite well on more modern and quick machines which don't have too much programme data & info on a simple disk configuration, but becomes rather chancy on older/less well endowed machines. Also, as well as backing up your data, make sure you have made a couple of successful recent System Restore points before you start.

Will try a few more things, but may finally have to resort to that spare licence I still have (I hope!) from buying a 3-licence XP/Vista upgrade disk to upgrade to W7 a few years ago and then completely reinstalling W7 from an external DVD drive!

Miracles do happen! Quite accidently managed to get to the Factory Restore process (and THEN found some Youtube videos on how to do it !) and so it looks like I not going to need that upgrade disk and so-on - should have thought of that before. Luckily, I hope, it will only do the restore on the Boot Partition and leave all the stuff on the Extended partitions intact.

.

 

[jeallen01]

ASUS is now back in the W7 land of the living, but a long way from the config it did have - luckily the 2nd & 3rd partitions were not wiped, although, strangely, their drive letters show in reverse order in Explorer (i.e. E before D)! Sorted that out later but had to reinstall some stuff afterwards.

NB: this is why partitioning the hard disk and, as far as possible, installing programmes and keeping data on partitions other than the boot drive (C:\) is SUCH a good idea.

Now need to download all the W7 and Office 2010 updates which will take a long time and many restarts - duh!

When I get back to where I was this time yesterday, dare I try another W10 upgrade "for the hell of it" (at least I know now how to get back to square 1 fairly quickly and without too much heartache)?

 

[4wd]

ASUS is now back in the W7 land of the living

Good job!

at least I know now how to get back to square 1

Macrium Reflect !! Save some disk images on external media, make a bootable Reflect Win PE usb boot stick (test the usb boot), then have fun trying out any experiment. If everything explodes, revert to fully functional pc in a few minutes.

 

[jeallen01]

Good job!


Macrium Reflect !! Save some disk images on external media, make a bootable Reflect Win PE usb boot stick (test the usb boot), then have fun trying out any experiment. If everything explodes, revert to fully functional pc in a few minutes.

4wd

Thanks, I'll try that! Cheers!

 

[4wd]

^^^ Reflect is extremely reliable, for backup\restore\transfers to new ssd\hd (provided no thick green smoke coming from pc and hd's not making screeching noises :O)

 

[jeallen01]

Well I would try it, but others things have now gone really tits-up with the ASUS again!

Windows Update will search for updates, but that goes on for ever and goes nowhere - so I can't update the OS !

Found the relevant updates on the MS website - I need to download and install KB3020369 and then kb3125574 , which are 2 consecutive standalone "rollup packages" for W7 to April 2016. I can download the first one but it won't install!

Tried to try other routes including the off-line Windows Server Update Services (WSUS), but that won't download to any of the machines at the moment!

At this point it looks like I am totally scuppered for a updated W7 OS on the ASUS - never seen anything like this before .

Anyone have any ideas - apart from having another go at upgrading to W10 via a USB flash drive?

 

[Lazarus]

[Shameless] Linux Mint 18 just released [/Shameless]

 

[Archive4]

Anyone have any ideas

 

[Archive4]

[Shameless] Linux Mint 18 just released [/Shameless]

I knew I knew you!

 

[jeallen01]

The lighter side of life!