Hi to everyone, i've just recently discovered this forum and find it very informative indeed. I'd installed a few fixed dishes in my time and decided to give motorised a try. Having spent many hours in the rain setting up the disecq mount all is now working very nicely. Is there anyone out there who knows how i can view the Zee tv channels on hotbird. I think they are in irdeto but b4 i go out and buy a cam, just need confirmation that they are actually there or is it just the channel idents i receive. According to Wotsat they are clear, but I can't see them. If they are in irdeto how would i decide on which file to use for the card ? Will any irdeto file do? My apologies for appearing to be a bit thick but i havent quite got my head around card progging just yet.