Old timer needs system help please.

[Tony Daly]

I suspect you'll be pleasantly surprised and find much of it intuitive.

Here's hoping.
As long as I don't need to learn a foreign language just to get it going

Tony.

 

[Tony Daly]

Order has now been placed with World of Satellite for Octagon SX88+ SE WL .
Should have it early next week.
Everyone can look forward to lots of silly questions
Thanks everyone who advised me on this.

Tony.

 

[Tony Daly]

A couple of questions to be going on with ?

(1) Will the SX88+ come with an up to date satellite & transponder database ?

(2) Rather than throw out the old Technomate 7102HD which still functions fine can I connect both it & the new SX88+ to the motorised dish & use both to drive the motor ?
I found these two threads from back in 2012 & 2014 which suggest I can ?

2 receivers to drive 1 motorised dish?

It's been a while since my last installation and I want to change things a bit :-ohcrap:- I want to connect 2 receivers (one will be upstairs) to my motorised dish and both receivers also to a fixed dish. I don't need to use/view the motorised dish from both receivers at the same time - so a...

www.satellites.co.uk

Advice Needed - Motorised Dish, 2 Receivers

On my current motorised setup (1.0m CM, Jaeger 1224 H 2 H, G Box and Protek 9760 HD) I would like to add another receiver (Dr HD F15). What I want to do is to be able to switch between the receivers so that whichever one I am using it retains control of the motor. The Protek would be mainly used...

www.satellites.co.uk

Tony.

 

[jeallen01]

A couple of questions to be going on with ?

(1) Will the SX88+ come with an up to date satellite & transponder database ?

(2) Rather than throw out the old Technomate 7102HD which still functions fine can I connect both it & the new SX88+ to the motorised dish & use both to drive the motor ?
I found these two threads from back in 2012 & 2014 which suggest I can ?

2 receivers to drive 1 motorised dish?

It's been a while since my last installation and I want to change things a bit :-ohcrap:- I want to connect 2 receivers (one will be upstairs) to my motorised dish and both receivers also to a fixed dish. I don't need to use/view the motorised dish from both receivers at the same time - so a...

www.satellites.co.uk

Advice Needed - Motorised Dish, 2 Receivers

On my current motorised setup (1.0m CM, Jaeger 1224 H 2 H, G Box and Protek 9760 HD) I would like to add another receiver (Dr HD F15). What I want to do is to be able to switch between the receivers so that whichever one I am using it retains control of the motor. The Protek would be mainly used...

www.satellites.co.uk

Tony.

The simplest way to do this is with a "Smart Priority Switch"("SPS") such as one of these Goobay 51445 SAT Priority Switch: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics which you connect in the cables from each receiver to the Geobox - in your case, whichever receiver is "ON" will take control of that and thus the motor.
I use several in the system - mainly to switch control of the dishes & LNBs down the garden between the receivers in the lounge and those in the "bedroom office"

Also, a bit more/different advice in this and similar threads

 

[william-1]

No the SX88+ will not come with the latest satellite & transponder database,
So you will need to load one of these:-
Go to thread #34 Just Sharing This - Ch List for OCTAGON SX88+ H.265 HEVC HD Multistream

A guide on how to do it is here:-

Just Sharing This - SX88+ series how to save your channel list & download a channel list

SX88+ series how to save your channel list First place a blank USB stick in your receiver now follow :- 1/Menu (press menu on your remote control) 2/move the cursor to back up & Recovery 3/Settings export to USB Press OK 4/Please select data for backup 5/ DVB channel list select 6/ Press start...

www.satellites.co.uk

 

[william-1]

Just Sharing This - Ch List for OCTAGON SX88+ H.265 HEVC HD Multistream

Octagon SX88+ H265 HEVC HD Multistream Ch List by William_1 9th March 2020 This motorised Satellite TV Ch list covers 53 east to 34.5 west Use this Channel list for the following receivers:- Octagon SX88+ H.265 HEVC HD Multistream, Octagon SX88 H.265 HEVC HD Multistream, EDISION PRIMO IP S2...

www.satellites.co.uk

 

[Tony Daly]

Just Sharing This - Ch List for OCTAGON SX88+ H.265 HEVC HD Multistream

Octagon SX88+ H265 HEVC HD Multistream Ch List by William_1 9th March 2020 This motorised Satellite TV Ch list covers 53 east to 34.5 west Use this Channel list for the following receivers:- Octagon SX88+ H.265 HEVC HD Multistream, Octagon SX88 H.265 HEVC HD Multistream, EDISION PRIMO IP S2...

www.satellites.co.uk

Sorry William but are there files that I have to load & how to do it ?

Tony.

 

[jeallen01]

@Willliam-1

I must admit to being confused myself because, whilst those links do lead to lists of the channels, there are no attached ZIP or other compressed format files containing the actual lists to be loaded onto the receivers via USB - unlike your channel lists for the TM5402, etc.

 

[william-1]

Sorry William but are there files that I have to load & how to do it ?

Tony.

All the files are hidden for some reason maybe admin can assist ?

 

[william-1]

@Willliam-1

I must admit to being confused myself because, whilst those links do lead to lists of the channels, there are no attached ZIP or other compressed format files containing the actual lists to be loaded onto the receivers via USB - unlike your channel lists for the TM5402, etc.

Look again all channel lists are now hidden I think the recent upgrade has caused this ?

 

[jeallen01]

All the files are hidden for some reason maybe admin can assist ?

Maybe this was one of the results of @chris upgrading the forum (see)?

 

[william-1]

Maybe this was one of the results of @chris upgrading the forum (see)?

Yes that is correct waiting for Chris to fix......

 

[william-1]

Sorry William but are there files that I have to load & how to do it ?

Tony.

Sorry Tony until Chis fixes this all you can do is load the latest satellite & transponder data manually,

FlySat Sat List

www.flysat.com

This will take you several hours until you can load my lists.

 

[Tony Daly]

The simplest way to do this is with a "Smart Priority Switch"("SPS") such as one of these Goobay 51445 SAT Priority Switch: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics which you connect in the cables from each receiver to the Geobox - in your case, whichever receiver is "ON" will take control of that and thus the motor.
I use several in the system - mainly to switch control of the dishes & LNBs down the garden between the receivers in the lounge and those in the "bedroom office"

Also, a bit more/different advice in this and similar threads

I presume that you should have only one receiver powered on at one time ?
Silly question but what happens if both receivers are powered on at the same time ? Can you do damage ?

Tony.

 

[Tony Daly]

Sorry Tony until Chis fixes this all you can do is load the latest satellite & transponder data manually,

FlySat Sat List

www.flysat.com

This will take you several hours until you can load my lists.

SX88+ wont be here until next Tuesday so he may have it fixed by then ?
I suppose a blind scan would bring them in anyway ?

Tony.

 

[jeallen01]

I presume that you should have only one receiver powered on at one time ?
Silly question but what happens if both receivers are powered on at the same time ? Can you do damage ?

Tony.

1 - You won't do any "damage" to either receiver if both are powered ON - done that "in error" a number of times, with no damage!
2 - The receiver connected to the Master socket on the SPS has priority, and that connected to the Slave socket cannot override the Master
3 - OTOH, not absolutely sure what happens whereby the Master receiver is switched OFF (or in Standby) with the Slave receiver is switched ON and thus has control of the motor/LNB(s), but the Master is then switched ON?

 

[jeallen01]

1 - You won't do any "damage" to either receiver if both are powered ON - done that "in error" a number of times, with no damage!
2 - The receiver connected to the Master socket on the SPS has priority, and that connected to the Slave socket cannot override the Master
3 - OTOH, not absolutely sure what happens whereby the Master receiver is switched OFF (or in Standby) with the Slave receiver is switched ON and thus has control of the motor/LNB(s), but the Master is then switched ON?

Just checked out No 3 above - if the Slave receiver is already ON and has control of the SPS, and thus the motor/LNB, then switching the Master ON has no effect and the Slave continues to have control of the motor/LNB.

 

[jeallen01]

Look again all channel lists are now hidden I think the recent upgrade has caused this ?

Looks like @Chris has now fixed that issue because I can now see William-1's attachments

 

[william-1]

No the SX88+ will not come with the latest satellite & transponder database,
So you will need to load one of these:-
Go to thread #34 Just Sharing This - Ch List for OCTAGON SX88+ H.265 HEVC HD Multistream

A guide on how to do it is here:-

Just Sharing This - SX88+ series how to save your channel list & download a channel list

SX88+ series how to save your channel list First place a blank USB stick in your receiver now follow :- 1/Menu (press menu on your remote control) 2/move the cursor to back up & Recovery 3/Settings export to USB Press OK 4/Please select data for backup 5/ DVB channel list select 6/ Press start...

www.satellites.co.uk

All files now working plus I have also compiled a guide on how to do it

 

[Tony Daly]

Just checked out No 3 above - if the Slave receiver is already ON and has control of the SPS, and thus the motor/LNB, then switching the Master ON has no effect and the Slave continues to have control of the motor/LNB.

The insertion loss with the auto switch seems to be about 4db while with the simple A-B switch its between 1/2db loss.
Could make the difference when trying to lock a weak signal ?