21.6E IP multiple IP streams

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21.6E_10722 V,30000,2/3,8PSK-Program 1101 Demo
Here is a mux with multiple IP streams, but although it is free, it cannot be viewed because it is encapsulated. It manifests as a generic stream even though it is not of this type.


 

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Interesting! Any indications as to what it might be?
 

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MPE transfer demonstration
 

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It is difficult to tell who and what content is being transmitted, but after the rare moments when voices are heard speaking in English, French, Chinese...Too bad we don't have a utility for such streams.
 

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A longer recording would be great. I think I can almost make out the logo of M6, the French station, but it might just be my mind.
 

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21.6E_10722 V,30000,2/3,8PSK-Program 1101 Demo
Here is a mux with multiple IP streams, but although it is free, it cannot be viewed because it is encapsulated. It manifests as a generic stream even though it is not of this type.

you try view saved MPE IP payload from TSReader or live retransmit IP paylod (multicast)?
 

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this is what i get using dvb-ip-mpe2ts in scan mode:
Code:
root@sf8008:/tmp# dvb-ip-mpe2ts -s 100 -i 224.ts
Nr. | PID  | Dest-IP-Address | Port  | Payload Type     | Channel Name
--- | ---- | --------------- | ----- | ---------------- | ------------------------------
1   | 1011 | 224.100.100.5   | 5000  | 33  MP2T       AV | Channel List
2   | 1012 | 224.30.3.11     | 6000  | 33  MP2T       AV | orp01-ten999-ch002-hls_sb
3   | 1012 | 224.30.3.10     | 6000  | 33  MP2T       AV | orp01-ten999-ch001-hls_sb
4   | 1013 | 224.30.3.12     | 6000  | 33  MP2T       AV | orp01-ten999-ch003-hls_sb
5   | 1013 | 224.30.3.13     | 6000  | 33  MP2T       AV | orp01-ten999-ch004-hls_sb
6   | 1014 | 224.30.3.15     | 6000  | 33  MP2T       AV | orp01-ten999-ch006-hls_sb
7   | 1014 | 224.30.3.14     | 6000  | 33  MP2T       AV | (null)
8   | 1015 | 224.30.3.16     | 6000  | 33  MP2T       AV | orp01-ten999-ch007-hls_sb
9   | 1016 | 224.31.3.10     | 6020  | 33  MP2T       AV |
10  | 1016 | 224.31.3.10     | 6000  | 33  MP2T       AV | orp01-ten999-ch001-dash_sb

No luck for now in opening the channels

@CrazyCat : viewing saved MPE with tsreader leads to broken image ike in the 1st post
 

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you try view saved MPE IP payload from TSReader or live retransmit IP paylod (multicast)?
Yes, I have seen (the word comes) every stream saving MPE IP payload using TSReader(v 2.8.56.a)
 

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try VLC instead PotPlayer
 

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I first tried to play these streams with VLC, but, as you can see, the result is the same as with PotPlayer.
I don't know if, on Windows, it is possible to play these streams in the clear; maybe it is. That's why I would ask other users to try because the signal of 10722 V, 30000,2/3,8PSK is strong and can be received in many parts of Europe. Who knows, maybe it can do what I couldn't.
 

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Got it!
I have recorded few seconds of entire transport stream, then "decoded" with "dvb-ip-mpe2ts" and i got a clean file that i can play with VLC:
Code:
root@sf8008:/tmp# dvb-ip-mpe2ts -s 1000 -i 224.ts
Nr. | PID  | Dest-IP-Address | Port  | Payload Type     | Channel Name
--- | ---- | --------------- | ----- | ---------------- | ------------------------------
1   | 1011 | 224.100.100.5   | 5000  | 33  MP2T       AV | Channel List
2   | 1012 | 224.30.3.11     | 6000  | 33  MP2T       AV | orp01-ten999-ch002-hls_sb
3   | 1012 | 224.30.3.10     | 6000  | 33  MP2T       AV | orp01-ten999-ch001-hls_sb
4   | 1013 | 224.30.3.12     | 6000  | 33  MP2T       AV | orp01-ten999-ch003-hls_sb
5   | 1013 | 224.30.3.13     | 6000  | 33  MP2T       AV | orp01-ten999-ch004-hls_sb
6   | 1014 | 224.30.3.15     | 6000  | 33  MP2T       AV | orp01-ten999-ch006-hls_sb
7   | 1014 | 224.30.3.14     | 6000  | 33  MP2T       AV | (null)
8   | 1015 | 224.30.3.16     | 6000  | 33  MP2T       AV | orp01-ten999-ch007-hls_sb
9   | 1016 | 224.31.3.10     | 6020  | 33  MP2T       AV |
10  | 1016 | 224.31.3.10     | 6000  | 33  MP2T       AV | orp01-ten999-ch001-dash_sb

I processed PID 1012:
Code:
root@sf8008:/tmp# dvb-ip-mpe2ts -i 224.ts -o o.ts -p 1012 -a 224.30.3.11 -n 6000

and i got my "o.ts" file:
f24.png
So PID 1011 contains France24.
 

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Here the complete channel list:

Code:
Nr. | PID  | Dest-IP-Address | Port  | Payload Type     | Channel Name
--- | ---- | --------------- | ----- | ---------------- | ------------------------------
1   | 1011 | 224.100.100.5   | 5000  | 33  MP2T       AV | Channel List
2   | 1012 | 224.30.3.11     | 6000  | 33  MP2T       AV | FRANCE 24
3   | 1012 | 224.30.3.10     | 6000  | 33  MP2T       AV | ARTE
4   | 1013 | 224.30.3.12     | 6000  | 33  MP2T       AV | EUTELSAT PROMO
5   | 1013 | 224.30.3.13     | 6000  | 33  MP2T       AV | EUTELSAT PROMO
6   | 1014 | 224.30.3.15     | 6000  | 33  MP2T       AV | EUTELSAT PROMO
7   | 1014 | 224.30.3.14     | 6000  | 33  MP2T       AV | ARIANESPACE LAUNCH (VA229)
8   | 1015 | 224.30.3.16     | 6000  | 33  MP2T       AV | EUTELSAT PROMO
9   | 1016 | 224.31.3.10     | 6020  | 33  MP2T       AV | NULL
10  | 1016 | 224.31.3.10     | 6000  | 33  MP2T       AV | NULL
 

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Very interesting. Looks like some kind of test from Eutelsat themselves. Maybe they're going to market it for cheaper feeds or something.
 

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We can watch the channes in E2 if we have the great dabstreamer installed:

Code for lamedb:
Code:
/
00d70000:27d8:022e
    s 10722000:30000000:1:2:215:2:0:1:2:0:2
/


044d:00d70000:27d8:022e:12:0
EUTELSAT PID 1012
p:Eutelsat,c:1503f4,f:40
044e:00d70000:27d8:022e:12:0
EUTELSAT PID 1013
p:Eutelsat,c:1503f5,f:40
044f:00d70000:27d8:022e:12:0
EUTELSAT PID 1014
p:Eutelsat,c:1503f6,f:40
044c:00d70000:27d8:022e:12:0
EUTELSAT PID 1015
p:Eutelsat,c:1503f7,f:40
044b:00d70000:27d8:022e:12:0
EUTELSAT PID 1016
p:Eutelsat,c:1503f8,f:40

Then make a new favorite group and paste this:
Code:
#SERVICE 4097:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:http%3a//localhost%3a5237/ott/1%3a0%3aC%3a44D%3a27D8%3a22E%3aD70000%3a0%3a0%3a0%3a/1012/224.30.3.10/6000:Arte
#DESCRIPTION Arte
#SERVICE 4097:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:http%3a//localhost%3a5237/ott/1%3a0%3aC%3a44D%3a27D8%3a22E%3aD70000%3a0%3a0%3a0%3a/1012/224.30.3.11/6000:France24
#DESCRIPTION France24
#SERVICE 4097:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:http%3a//localhost%3a5237/ott/1%3a0%3aC%3a44E%3a27D8%3a22E%3aD70000%3a0%3a0%3a0%3a/1013/224.30.3.12/6000:Eutelsat Promo
#DESCRIPTION Eutelsat Promo
#SERVICE 4097:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:http%3a//localhost%3a5237/ott/1%3a0%3aC%3a44E%3a27D8%3a22E%3aD70000%3a0%3a0%3a0%3a/1013/224.30.3.13/6000:Eutelsat Promo2
#DESCRIPTION Eutelsat Promo2
#SERVICE 4097:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:http%3a//localhost%3a5237/ott/1%3a0%3aC%3a44F%3a27D8%3a22E%3aD70000%3a0%3a0%3a0%3a/1014/224.30.3.14/6000:Eutelsat Promo3
#DESCRIPTION Eutelsat Promo3
#SERVICE 4097:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:http%3a//localhost%3a5237/ott/1%3a0%3aC%3a44F%3a27D8%3a22E%3aD70000%3a0%3a0%3a0%3a/1014/224.30.3.15/6000:Eutelsat Promo4
#DESCRIPTION Eutelsat Promo4
#SERVICE 4097:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:http%3a//localhost%3a5237/ott/1%3a0%3aC%3a44C%3a27D8%3a22E%3aD70000%3a0%3a0%3a0%3a/1015/224.30.3.16/6000:Eutelsat Promo5
#DESCRIPTION Eutelsat Promo5
#SERVICE 4097:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:http%3a//localhost%3a5237/ott/1%3a0%3aC%3a44B%3a27D8%3a22E%3aD70000%3a0%3a0%3a0%3a/1016/224.30.3.10/6000:Eutelsat Promo6
#DESCRIPTION Eutelsat Promo6
#SERVICE 4097:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:http%3a//localhost%3a5237/ott/1%3a0%3aC%3a44B%3a27D8%3a22E%3aD70000%3a0%3a0%3a0%3a/1016/224.30.3.10/6020:Eutelsat Promo7
#DESCRIPTION Eutelsat Promo7

The channels on PID 1016 and 1015 are not visible (scrambled??) but the rest works fine (a little glitch every now and then)

Bye!:cool:
 

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Congratulations, @cirio70, on your achievement and for the how-to :) Thanks to you, I worked a stream, France 24.
The test is done on Ubuntu:
 

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We can watch the channes in E2 if we have the great dabstreamer installed:

I search this forum, is there somewhere a explanation on how to get and install dabstreamer?
The sentance above implies that everyone already has it installed or knows how.
 

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Would anyone know what type of receiver/converter a ground station studio would use to capture these signals?
I am assuming that the ground station receiving these feeds from a satellite dish would have a receiver/converter connected to the dish LNB that transcodes the signal ready for use in the ownward flow?
 

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Maybe S400 or S401 or R-2710
novra-s200-satellite-ip-receiver-configuration-diagram.jpg
 
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