Astra 2E at 28.2E: General Discussion Part 1

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Waveguide said:
Some of us don't take the coming changes too seriously simply because we got
the antidote that will solve any problems. This magic potion to be exact...

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There is a luxury version with 11,4 dB gain but I really don't believe in that one,
sounds too good to be true really!
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Well even I got a bit panicky today. A few days ago I saw on youtube someone putting a plastic cone round the feedhorn, just sticky slightly proud and getting much better signal quality. Now I thought it was BS, but desperate times and all that I spent two hours trying different sized cones, protruding at different lengths. No joy suprise suprise. Now all I need is some snake oil.
 
cazhh said:
Which translates to almost 120km of beam movement over the earth. Which should be near enough those 0.15 degrees. If someone wants to do the maths, pls go ahead :)
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You can't put a numeric value on it because it is different at different places around the beam. Here's what 0.15º looks like in equirectangular projection.

footprint-map.webp
 
DishDick said:
Well even I got a bit panicky today. A few days ago I saw on youtube someone putting a plastic cone round the feedhorn, just sticky slightly proud and getting much better signal quality. Now I thought it was BS, but desperate times and all that I spent two hours trying different sized cones, protruding at different lengths. No joy suprise suprise. Now all I need is some snake oil.
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Try rubbing mustard on the front of the LNB
 
Pietclock said:
@timo_w2s: yes I think so too. The spot beam is a Freesat-only operation. And I still think there is no spotbeam capability for 33MHz transponders.
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Not quite, the Irish channels from RTÉ, TV3 & TG4 that are encrypted have always been on a spot beam, first on 2d and later on 1n.
 
Raining right now, the levels are lower this morning but good overal
The most affected compared with measurements tp this morning.
12070 = 7.50dB (16dB ==> 7.50dB.)
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Lloviendo en estos momentos, los niveles son mas bajos que esta mañana pero bien en general.
El tp mas afectado comparado con las mediciones de esta mañana.
12070 = 7.50dB (16dB ==> 7.50dB.)

Madrid North (40.5458°N, 3.612°W) near Ikea.
94cm dish, DB800S-HD, simple style/sencillo. 5-2-2014 4:00.
Code: 
10714 =  13.00dB  Channel 4 (c4l)
10729 =  13.50dB  Channel 4 +1
10744 =  13.50dB  RTE One
10758 =  13.50dB  ITV
10773 =  12.50dB  BBC 1 London
10788 =  14.00dB  BBC 1 Wales
10803 =  13.00dB  BBC 1 Scotland
10817 =  13.50dB  BBC 1 Oxford
10832 =  14.00dB  ITV HD
10847 =  13.50dB  BBC One HD
10862 =  13.50dB  Sky/Disney
10876 =  13.50dB  Sky/Nickelodeon
10891 =  12.50dB  ITV +1
10906 =  14.00dB  STV
10921 =  12.50dB  Sky TCM
10935 =  14.00dB  ITV HD
12207 =  15.50dB  Pick/Sky News
10964 =   8.50dB  Channel 5
10994 =   8.00dB  ITV HD
11023 =   8.00dB  BBC 1 Scot HD
11053 =   8.50dB  ITV +1
11067 =   8.00dB  20800/810 y 21000 (ITV HD)
11097 =   8.50dB  21000/10/20/30 (ITV HD)
11126 =   9.00dB  Channel 4 HD
11222 =   9.00dB  Greatest Hits
11224 =  10.50dB  RT HD
11260 =   9.50dB  B4U Music
11261 =   9.50dB  horror channel
11307 =  10.50dB  Flava Bliss Scuzz
11343 =  10.50dB  CBS Reality
11344 =  10.50dB  CBS Drama
11426 =   8.50dB  FRANCE 24 eng
11428 =   9.00dB  Fashion One/LBP TV
11719 =  18.50dB  Lifetime HD
11739 =  17.50dB
11758 =  18.50dB  Animal Plnt HD
11778 =  17.00dB
11797 =  17.50dB
11817 =  17.50dB
11836 =  17.00dB  Sky Action
11856 =  17.50dB  E4 HD
11875 =  18.50dB
11895 =  17.00dB
11914 =  17.00dB  Pick
11934 =  17.00dB  Sky Intro
11992 =   8.00dB  Dave
12012 =  17.50dB  Sky Family HD
12031 =  19.00dB
12051 =  16.50dB
12070 =   7.50dB (16dB ==> 7.5dB)
12090 =   6.50dB
12109 =  17.00dB
12148 =  16.50dB
12168 =  16.00dB
12187 =  16.50dB
12207 =  15.50dB
12226 =  16.50dB
12246 =  15.50dB
12265 =  16.50dB
12285 =  17.50dB
12304 =  16.00dB
12324 =  16.50dB
12343 =  18.00dB
12363 =  17.50dB
12382 =  18.00dB  Dave HD
12460 =  17.50dB  Sky 3D
12480 =   5.00dB  Box Kiss Kerrang Smash Hits (7dB==> 5dB)
12515 =  17.00dB  MOTORS TV UK
12520 =  17.50dB  Heart Capital Clubland PlanetPop
12545 =  17.50dB
12551 =  16.50dB
12574 =  16.50dB
12580 =  15.50dB
12604 =  16.00dB
12610 =  16.00dB  Kiss Magic RT
12633 =  17.00dB  Al Jazeera
12640 =  16.00dB
12663 =  15.50dB  Euronews
12669 =  14.50dB  CH NINE UK

Astra 2E: Iberia & Balearics Reports
 
Ex 1N Pan European frequencies 12070H-12363V are mostly very strong now here in Finland. Quite same signal level as 2A north beam earlier, nice. 12207V, 12188H, 12110H and12363V about8dB others more than 16dB.
 
Kveys said:
Ex 1N Pan European frequencies 12070H-12363V are mostly very strong now here in Finland. Quite same signal level as 2A north beam earlier, nice. 12207V, 12188H, 12110H and12363V about8dB others more than 16dB.
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Yep, from a quick look it seems some channels from 1N are back on 2A.
 
Huevos said:
You can't put a numeric value on it because it is different at different places around the beam. Here's what 0.15º looks like in equirectangular projection.

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I was talking about what i saw. That means i was talking about my location.
Can you reveal how you've calculated that ? I'd like to play a bit with the formula.
 
More weird issues, for example CNN freq. 12051V was yesterday about 11dB and now about 7dB. Just like 2A south beam earlier??
 
timo_w2s said:
I tested my 80cm dish in Helsinki and as I suspected not getting a lock on any of the new 2E Europe beams, the DrHD F15 reads between 0.0-2.1dB at best. Before I was getting 12-14dB on 2A North beam and 4-6dB on the South beam.
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then 2E must be about 1,5-3dB with you 80cm.(you need 95cm dish )
 
Kveys said:
More weird issues, for example CNN freq. 12051V was yesterday about 11dB and now about 7dB. Just like 2A south beam earlier??
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Yeah. Many changes here between 12Ghz and 12.4Ghz.
 
timo_w2s said:
Yep, from a quick look it seems some channels from 1N are back on 2A.
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Indeed they have!

A yesterday scan with the first changes...
28E_4feb.webp

Today...
2a.webp
 
So is it about five 1N TP's that have migrated back over to 2A?
 
M60 said:
So is it about five 1N TP's that have migrated back over to 2A?
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i'd say 8.

12070H
12090V
12148H
12168V
12226H
12246V
12304H
12324V
 
For info only found this :-

"" Celebrations in the areas to gain from the Europe beam ought to be muted, though. SES Astra have the capacity to carry out tweaks and adjustments to the new satellite's beams in the light of reception reports. ""

http://www.skyinmadrid.com/pages/news.html
 
M60 said:
So is it about five 1N TP's that have migrated back over to 2A?
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Most probably 11...

12071H
12090V
12110H
12168V
12148H
12207V
12227H
12246V
12266H
12304H
12324V

In today's graph I posted above, you only see the south beam frequencies, I have no reception of 2A's north beam.
 
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yesterday:



today:

 
Signal levels well down here on those transponders mentioned above, looks like the following could be said of Astra 2A : There's life in the old dog yet!
 
Cairo update: sky news, sky sp1-3, F1, Comedy Central, fox news came back overnight on Astra 2e.
 
strs65 said:
Most probably 11...

12071H
12090V
12110H
12168V
12148H
12207V
12227H
12246V
12266H
12304H
12324V

In today's graph I posted above, you only see the south beam frequencies, I have no reception of 2A's north beam.
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Those were on 2B and then 1N. So they haven't migrated them "back" to 2A. Obviously 1N release is priority.

So looks like they are migrating all channels to their permanent homes and 2A is the stand-in for 2G.
 
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