Astra 2G at 28.2E: General Discussion

[DX Excalibur]

11582 H, 11597 V, 11671 H ready to be activated tomorrow ? I see small bumps on spectrum.
Same thing happened on 17.06, a day before 11464, 11479, 11509 were activated, small bumps could be seen on spectrum.

 

[Archive4]

I see small bumps on spectrum.

Does your spectrum have measles?

 

[hvdh]

11582 H, 11597 V, 11671 H ready to be activated tomorrow ? I see small bumps on spectrum.
Same thing happened on 17.06, a day before 11464, 11479, 11509 were activated, small bumps could be seen on spectrum.

Nice findings! Means the transponders are switched on, while the uplink transmitters are not (yet).

 

[Archive4]

Try 11447V 23000 3/4
Not on flysat, but blindscan picked it up!

Sorry, did not have glasses on. miss typed. try 11477 V ( as all sites show ) Sorry once again

 

[timo_w2s]

Just a reminder, if you want a quick overview of the 2G/28A changes so far and some planned ones, see this sticky:
https://www.satellites.co.uk/forums...at-28a-close-down-transponder-changes.165697/

 

[Analoguesat]

11479V may be difficult in fringe areas - its dvb-s2 & fec 8/9

 

[clubsms]

11479V Fine with 85 cm dish in Vaasa Finland and I am outside or at the very edge of the 120 cm official footprint.

 

[iandoh]

Same here, 11479V is stronger than 5w's strongest TP! 11507 V is even stronger, showing a 99% on the TM5402

 

[Archive4]

11479V ( se locked it 11477V ) 14.9db here, could be stronger!

 

[Tururu]

The more powerful of 48 satellites 13,000 channels.
El mas potente de 13.000 canales en 48 satelites.

11477V23K 8/9= 20.00dB Signal/SNR100% AGC99% BER 0

PS: The spectrum analyzer where sees it/El analizador de espectro en donde lo ve.

 

[4wd]

El mas potente de 13.000 canales en 48 satelites.
11477V23K 8/9= 20.00dB Signal/SNR100% AGC99% BER 0

If of interest, 11477V has the highest signal level of all here too.

 

[peeter3000]

Can this signal be thru diseq from 75E?

 

[timo_w2s]

Can this signal be thru diseq from 75E?
View attachment 80081

If the 75E LNB is single I would think it's unlikely to be that as the disecq would not be sending power to it?

 

[Analoguesat]

Is the end of Freesat receiver use outside the UK spotbeams imminent?

This would seem to indicate the 4 remaining tp's can only move to the UK spot next week:

http://frequencyplansatellites.altervista.org/Astra/Astra_2E.pdf

No home tp (tp 115)= the receivers are more or less useless.

 

[timo_w2s]

Is the end of Freesat receiver use outside the UK spotbeams imminent?

This would seem to indicate the 4 remaining tp's can only move to the UK spot next week:

http://frequencyplansatellites.altervista.org/Astra/Astra_2E.pdf

No home tp (tp 115)= the receivers are more or less useless.

But if you can't get the UK spots why would you want a Freesat box anyway? FTA on the Europe beams is pretty much limited to a few music channels, news and shopping. Those viewers can use a generic box or swap to a Sky box if they want the 7 day EPG, but music and news doesn't really need a long range EPG.

 

[M60]

I think AS your right that outside of the UK spot, Freesat is going to be a no-go. I guess only a Sky sub will give expats anything half decent to watch as most of what's left on the 2G PE TP's FTA is the niche dross at low bitrates

Timo is probably right that in terms of Freesat weighing up their options, as all the PSB derived channels are on spots anyway, soon most likely to be joined by the CBS and other entertainment channels going spot then there's more to be gained by switching the FS Home TP spot and finding channel operators deals who may want to get on-board.

I'm curious to know where those frequency plans originated, thought Timo had produced some. From a bit of inside info, I know 11.426V is planned for UK spot, not sure about the rest.

The other $64000 question is; will TP's 73 and 74, when migrated to 65 and 67 go spot or PE within Band C, something not seen from the new craft, possibly up to now. We'll all know by Thursday morning when they begin dual illumination.

 

[timo_w2s]

I'm curious to know where those frequency plans originated, thought Timo had produced some

Sadly I can't take the credit. I believe those are made by @Marcus_21

 

[timo_w2s]

Timo is probably right that in terms of Freesat weighing up their options, as all the PSB derived channels are on spots anyway, soon most likely to be joined by the CBS and other entertainment channels going spot then there's more to be gained by switching the FS Home TP spot and finding channel operators deals who may want to get on-board.

Although I believe interest might be slightly limited by the fact that any channel on the Freesat home transponder can't be included on the Sky EPG.

 

[Archive4]

Is the end of Freesat receiver use outside the UK spotbeams imminent?

This would seem to indicate the 4 remaining tp's can only move to the UK spot next week:

http://frequencyplansatellites.altervista.org/Astra/Astra_2E.pdf

No home tp (tp 115)= the receivers are more or less useless.

At least it is going to 2E ( if the info is correct ) which is better than 2G which for most of us here seems lower

 

[M60]

Although I believe interest might be slightly limited by the fact that any channel on the Freesat home transponder can't be included on the Sky EPG.

Yep, whoever went on it would be for FS inclusion only as there's no Adaptation Hub on the FS Mux output.

Apologies for the mistake in respect of the frequency plans, didn't realise Marcus owned that site. Those plans are interesting for the different crafts, didn't realise that the ME and African frequency plans were all 36MHz wide co-channel H/V.