Astra 1N, Eastern Europe, reception survey, UK spot beam (11126V DVB-S2)

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Enjoy it while you can, Ralph.

Not many months before 1N resumes its journey.
 

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Hello,
where could 1n be going?
if they just switched over from 2 d i think its here for a while.
ralph
 

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ralphmagno said:
Hello,
where could 1n be going?
if they just switched over from 2 d i think its here for a while.
ralph

1N will be sent on to 19E in a year or so - it'll be swapped over for 2F due for launch at the end of this year.

1N is only on an interim mission at 28E.
 

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hello, received bbc1 and 2 and ch 4 with a free to air receiver and a 1 meter dish.
the picture was braking up on a clear naples night but it was comming in .
the panasonic fringe receivers from sky will not pick it up at all.
ralph
 

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Not sure why Ralph.

1m Most BBC work, CH4,5 all fine.
1.25m everything works

What LNB are you using, I find the Fracarro UX Twin is good, or a Black Ultra Quad works very well

Yesterday installed 2 x 1m Fracarro dish's. The UX Twin worked better than the UX Quad.

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I had a look at all the new 1N transponders on my 1.8m dish in Helsinki today with a TM1500 and I couldn't get anything at all from any 1N transponders. The signal drop off seems to be very steep east of Sweden. I've also heard from someone else with 2.4m dish in Helsinki who hasn't had any luck either.
 

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I've been reading up on some of the local forums in Finland and so far only a few people have reported picking up some weak signals from 1N in the south west of the country. Reports suggest some of the verticals seem to be stronger. I haven't read of any reports of horizontals being received yet. Nothing from the new 2C band (five, C4 HD, etc). Someone with a 2.4m dish just about picks up a few pixelated vertical 1N channels for a few hours and someone else reports that a 3m dish gets them some watchable vertical channels for a few hours in the afternoon. I haven't read any positive reports from Helsinki which is even further east, so presumably even weaker.
 

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Yes it seems like there's a border line east of Stockholm. My reception of the 1N Astra U.K. beam is pretty good. To my surprise the HD channels are stronger than before (2D) even stronger than corresponding SD channels. I will go north west (near Norwegian border) this weekend to visit my winter resort. Will my 1,5m dish receive any beams from the 1N satellite?
 

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timo_w2s said:
I've been reading up on some of the local forums in Finland and so far only a few people have reported picking up some weak signals from 1N in the south west of the country. Reports suggest some of the verticals seem to be stronger. I haven't read of any reports of horizontals being received yet. Nothing from the new 2C band (five, C4 HD, etc). Someone with a 2.4m dish just about picks up a few pixelated vertical 1N channels for a few hours and someone else reports that a 3m dish gets them some watchable vertical channels for a few hours in the afternoon. I haven't read any positive reports from Helsinki which is even further east, so presumably even weaker.

Same story here in Poland, where signal border line is somewhere 50 km east of Krakow. Not very far from here my colleagues permanently receive both polarizations with relatively strong signal on 120 cm dishes, whereas in Krakow I struggle to watch them on 180 cm dish. In general I receive both polarizations for almost 12 hours a day (7am – 7pm), however 3 transponders 10.714H, 10.729V and 10.744H are strong enough to cover 24 hours. Some others start pixelating or completely disappear after sundown. From the other hand I shouldn’t complain as some of my mates, who leave further eastwards hardly can receive anything, even with 180 cm dishes. It looks like signal drastically weakens with every kilometer eastwards.
 

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Make sure you place your dish on the western most part of your house/flat/property!
 

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iggy said:
Same story here in Poland, where signal border line is somewhere 50 km east of Krakow. Not very far from here my colleagues permanently receive both polarizations with relatively strong signal on 120 cm dishes, whereas in Krakow I struggle to watch them on 180 cm dish. In general I receive both polarizations for almost 12 hours a day (7am – 7pm), however 3 transponders 10.714H, 10.729V and 10.744H are strong enough to cover 24 hours. Some others start pixelating or completely disappear after sundown. From the other hand I shouldn’t complain as some of my mates, who leave further eastwards hardly can receive anything, even with 180 cm dishes. It looks like signal drastically weakens with every kilometer eastwards.
Yes, it seems to be an impressive cut off once out of the proper footprint. Just shows how satellite technology has progressed in recent years. It'll be interesting to see how things go with the next lot of Astra 2 series satellites.
 

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Pretty good signal from the 1N beam in northwest of Sweden (near Röros in Norway). I would say about the same as in Sthlm with 1,5m dish. Studying the footprint of U.K. beam it's about the same distance from the beam centre (Birmimgham) in both Stockholm and Funäsdalen/Röros so I'm not surprised.
 

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1. place in D-99610 Sömmerda /Erfurt

*10714 H s88 q66
*10832 H s89 q69
*10847 V s88 q68 (23000, DVB-S2 QPSK 8/9,Pilot=off)
*10964 H s89 q72
*11053 H s89 q73
*11127 V s88 q72

2. In D-79 Freiburg
*10714 H s89 q76
*10832 H s89 q78
*10847 V s88 q78
*10964 H s90 q80
*11053 H s90 q81
*11127 V s88 q81

Near Poznan Poland no Signal.

(next time I make test with 110cm Triax)
 

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*10714 H s88 q2
*10832 H s88 q54
*10847 V s88-93 q2 (in morning 9:00 Q was 32-54)
*10964 H s88 q54
*11053 H s88 q55
*11126 V s87 q2

-It is "the last border" to recieve "something" in 1N.
-I see picture in ITV HD (10936V S87 Q55) but freesing every 3 sec,so no watchable.
-In morning was much lower Q, but strangely 10847 Q was 54.
-with CT 5000 the Q 45 is enough for watchable picture ,but not for N1 in this place! (here needs min. Q 55 and up)
 

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peeter3000 have you got any information how the situation looks like in Estonia or the neighbouring countries ? Have you tested 1N on your 3m in Tallinn ?
 

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"people" are telling,2,7m gets not signal in Tallinn (I can not confirm that myself).
my 3m I put little wrong (some tree covers about 40-50%), so not figured out what to do next..
 

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I see. Thanks a lot for the info.
 

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In Umbria you should get everything on your dish. I get it on a 1m in good conditions. 1.2m gives good results, 1.25 perfect in most weather down here in Naples
 

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For now .............
 
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