ASTRA 2D BBC & ITV RECEPTION

[philip24]

Trying to get signals to my dish here in Norway, more precisely Asker (that's 10,4 E and 59,8 N).

I have about 70-80 cm dish and a standard nokia lnb (don't know the db).

When I do an advanced search I'll get something like A958479 as a result. Is that good for something?

Also any tips on lnb and dish size at my location?

Thanks in advance..

been trying to search for information but I'll get that it's okay from everything to 70 - 200 cm dishes so I'm confused.

Try looking at these reports

 

[auswe]

which channels/satellite are you wanting?

BBC 1-4...

Get everything else but no 2D. Changing to a bigger dish this week to see if that'll do the trick..

Thanks

auswe

 

[bish]

O-no No any good news from here.
i have now a good signal from 2A north beam (lnb Invacom 0.3 two outputs)
but any signal from 2d!!!
barney

Barney - I'm wondering if Martin P's idea that your LNB is getting swamped by the other 28E Sky signals means that you might get 2D success if you could fit a low pass filter with a cutoff frequency just above the BBC stations at 10.7GHz? It might also explain why folks in Cyprus are getting good results, as opposed to the real difficulties being experienced by most/all in Southern Italy - ie. no problem where the 2A/2B South beams are as weak as 2D?

Unfortunately, I can't see anything obvious on the market to do the filtering and test whether this is the problem - unless you go to a rectangular horn and custom waveguide filter - anyone else know of any devices on the market?

 

[barney]

Thank you for your reply.
to see 2a north beam we had to add about 150 m of cable . If we take some off the signal goes down. The skew is very critical. Just a mm and we lose all 2a north beam.
I confirm that a lnb only for the low band and a only polarity could help me, but controlling it with a panny30 is difficult.
Regards
Barney

 

[Low_dBW]

Does anybody have reception data for Astra 2D signals (esp. transponders 45 - 48) around Zagreb, Croatia (or anywhere close to 16E,46N)?

 

[gameboy]

Does anybody have reception data for Astra 2D signals (esp. transponders 45 - 48) around Zagreb, Croatia (or anywhere close to 16E,46N)?

Astra 2D data here...

h**p://www.lyngsat.com/astra2d.html

 

[Low_dBW]

Astra 2D data here...

h**p://www.lyngsat.com/astra2d.html

Right. This is just channel info, thanks, but it does not help. I need info from people who receive 2D signals in my area, anything from "yes, I get it" to c/n ratio and signal strength measurements would be helpful.

 

[deepbluesky]

Have you been also to the forum on http://www.astra2d.co.uk/ Low_dBW ?
Then you might have read that the nearest reception successes around Zagreb are Trieste (1.80m), Klagenfurt (1.80m) and Burgenland (3m).

I would recommend you to ask in the croatian forum http://www.satelitskiforum.com/wBB2/ .

Also have a look here http://free-ka.htnet.hr/sat-tv/linkovi.html where you will find a list of satstores in HR.

 

[cobra148]

Location salou spain
receiver panasonic db30
80cm dish
Can confirm that sky full package north beam (full 2d) is easily available
in la pineda near salou spain.
80cm dish on top of motorhome.
99% signal on meter 50% quality

 

[rolfw]

Thanks cobra148, have added it to the list in the first post.

 

[Grande_Assiette]

Hi,

Unless something "major" happened overnight, Crete is *far* more west, and better located to receive Astra 2D than Cyprus which is only 80 km from Syria to the east and 100km from Turkey to the north !!

Don't worry, though its a common mistake.. the Irish Post office ( when the Irsih has the EU presidency) showed a picture of *CRETE* to celebrate the 10 joining states...

GA ;-)

PS You should get Astra 2D with a good 2.4m antenna in Crete - but a good 2.7m would be preferable.

Hi Keith,

Geography has never been my best subject, but i would guess that you are further out of the footprints than Cyprus and possibly better placed than Egypt, both of which have listings in the main post.

I can't remember hearing from any members that live in that part of the world, but perhaps a couple will come out of the woodwork.

You can always go to the www.lyngsat.com site and check out the footprints, but they will only give you a rough guide.

 

[deepbluesky]

The people here http://www.msg-shop.gr/ told me that to get the BBCs in Crete is quite a hard job. They did some installations there. Sometimes a 5m was enough, other installs quite close were struggling on 6m as far as i remember. In Athens which is far more north you need 5m. Maybe now the atmosphere has coolen down and this makes it possible to receive also with much smaller diameters. I have also heard a lot about improvement on the reception of the Hotbird 2-4 Superbeams in Athens where 3.10m were not enough in summer for some frequencies and now you might get them all with only 1.20m, so this seems to correlate.
Another phenomenon which i hear of very often in the edge or in the surrounding of the coverage areas is that in close distance, say 5km the needed dish diameters vary very much, so say you are 100km outside the last line of the footprint and you need a 1.80m, at 105km you might need 2.40m and at 110km again a 1.80m is sufficient. There must be maxima and minima and the gain between them in dB seems to be similar independent on how far you are away. What i mean is the gain 7m/5m is similar to 4m/3m or 2.40m/1.80m and if we consider also the atmospheric conditions then it could be received with a smaller dish. The interesting question remains: How big should it be to have all the time winter and summer enough signal ?

 

[Likvid]

A 7 meter dish is living hell to have pointed exactly at one satellite if you don't have motors correcting the movement for AZ/EL all the time.

The larger you go the harder it is to have it pointed exactly, it all starts at 3 meter and upwards.

You need concrete foundations that are so well done and you have to place the foundation on a solid ground like rock or something to minimize movements of the dish.

Of course it would be possible down in your place to get all Astra channels 24/7, but you need maybe a 15 meter dish with motors for AZ/EL tracking the movements all the time, the financial cost for a private person would be enormous and it's not feasible at all.

You also need a installer that knows what he is doing and not some prick who have only done 1 meter dish installations and those people are not common these days as many have changed trades over the years due to how the market developed......

If you have the money, contact Andrew and ask for a quote for a complete system with all bells and whistles i talked about and a complete installation at site by their own installers...

What i don't understand why you people don't get together in an area and share the financial costs of a system like this.

 

[BGonaSTICK]

Hey folks, this thread is an amazing 514 posts long!
There must be a better way to organise this information?!?

Can you please give some serious thought to starting a new thread, (or threads...) rather than posting here. I've no problem if you want to call them something similar (though specifics would be better...), and/or make them sticky, but it's going to be real difficult for anyone to find anything in this massive thread!

I understand it's a hugely popular topic, but we must be able to come up with something better than this?

Reception by country?

 

[Likvid]

Hey folks,
Reception by country?

That is a great idea!

 

[deepbluesky]

Excellent idea, like the Astra 2D Forum but for every satellite that is above horizon in the particular country

 

[BGonaSTICK]

Sure, why not, but don't forget that this particular sub-forum is for Sky Digital.

I'll leave it up to the good people that post in this thread to get the ball rolling and restart the chat in a series of new threads with the country in question clearly marked in the title.

Don't forget to make them 'sticky' if you want to keep them lively!

 

[Zorba]

how do you make them sticky ?

 

[rolfw]

Nice idea, but we couldn't have that many sticky threads at the top of the forum, which is why it is only a moderator function, would knock all of the other threads off the front page, will see if I can think of any other ways.

 

[BGonaSTICK]

Maybe we could come up with the most common four, or group/pair countries/areas? Hmm, but then I s'pose it would lose many of the benefits.

... or just not make them sticky! (appologies, I didn't realise this was a mod/admin function only )...


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