Astra 2F at 28.2E: General Discussion

[Lazarus]

Re: The Text removed from Post #70, here it is:

Question from TENERIFE-TV:

hi markus hope you look forward to a good weekend
lots of people keep asking the SES facebook page questions and all
that comes back is pre-packed information about subjects SES seem to be interested in but nothing that the public are asking
could you find time to ask someone to chat to use ´´little people´´
out here thank you..........




Answer from SES:

We'd like to respond to your questions relating to the current channel shifts at 28.2 degrees East and the footprint of ASTRA 2F. The UK channels are currently shifted from ASTRA 2B and ASTRA 1N to ASTRA 2F which has been launched recently and is operational now. ASTRA 2F is part of our fleet replacement programme at 28.2 degrees East. The channel transfer is ongoing and will have no implications for viewers in the UK since the TV programs shifted to ASTRA 2F operate on the same frequencies and are broadcast for the UK. TV viewers outside the UK, however, may see an impact as they might no longer be able to receive the channels due to their transfer to a beam with a smaller footprint. This footprint meets the requirements of our customers, the broadcasters, who focus their program distribution on the UK where they have the programme rights.

 

[miha20]

So some transponders will be shifted from Astra 2B to Astra 2F Uk spot beam and no longer available in Europe?

 

[timo_w2s]

So some transponders will be shifted from Astra 2B to Astra 2F Uk spot beam and no longer available in Europe?

We suspect the Astra 2B stuff will be on the Pan-European beam. But no one knows 100% for sure until it happens.

 

[Lazarus]

Exactly: To 2F, yes - but which Beam?

 

[woborny]

Calls and email I have had today from many worried people in Spain
"Is it true we will lose all out UK channels on the 16th December?"
They are all specifically saying the 16th December...

So anyone know if the 16th December is anything specific - eg the Sky EPG festive closure date, or 2b to 2f changes...

 

[Lazarus]

We simply do not know if the 2B Channels, when moved to 2F, will be on the narrow beam or not.

There is a high degree of understandable but uninformed scaremongering going on there, methinks.

As for 16th Dec, I've seen that posted in various places but how valid it is I cannot say. What is clear is that it will happen soon and knowing in advance the precise date really doesn't much affect the price of cheese.

 

[woborny]

There is a high degree of understandable but uninformed scaremongering going on there, methinks.

Thought I would ask just incase I missed something - since posing that, 2 more email and 3 more calls about "is it true that on the 16th .....

 

[Juan69]

Should be ok with your 1.4M

Thankyou Buckshee, just wind then. Story of my life.

 

[Lazarus]

Thought I would ask just incase I missed something - since posing that, 2 more email and 3 more calls about "is it true that on the 16th .....

Not long to wait ..........................

 

[Huevos]

What satellite is 11011 on? Is it still on 1N, or on 2F PE beam? Anyone can check previous spectrum grabs with the current situation?

 

[vladan10]

What satellite is 11011 on? Is it still on 1N, or on 2F PE beam? Anyone can check previous spectrum grabs with the current situation?

its long time from 1N (data)

 

[tothbros]

im going to make a prediction for 2E i got some things right about 2F especially the drop off but i got the areas it drop off wrong

well, i have to say, andrew, that a few months back i asked you based on your predictions to give me an estimate on 2F UK beam reception in hungary and now it seems you were spot on: approx. 33-35 dBW, if i remember correctly.

 

[dvdfilm]

considering the 2F footprint,it would be useful to have a section of the forum where people can discuss about the alternative ways to watch the PSB channels,like iptv etc.

 

[Analoguesat]

Start a thread in the IPTV section - thats a good a place as anywhere atm - we can always move it later.

 

[park_gate]

im going to make a prediction for 2E i got some things right about 2F especially the drop off but i got the areas it drop off wrong, still to see some reports from Iceland and north of Scotland once i get that i am pretty confident i can draw the actually beam although canaries seems to have thrown me out a bit wasn't expect that but hay it could just be manufacturing error and it there to stay.

my prediction for 2E is that the beam will be different it looks like the 2F beam it pretty much optical over the uk extend down through France and into the north east of Spain at the edge of the footprint the beam drops off signfaically i think to make it really confusing and give broadcasters a slight choice, the 2E and 2G UK spots will be slightly different with different skew on them so maybe 2E will be nicer to the ones in Sweden etc but northern Spain France might not fair so good, and 2G might be nicer to west Spain and Portugal but not to east spain

What do you base that on?

I seem to remember reading somewhere that 2E, 2F and 2G were identical satellites.

Why would they go to the expense of designing and testing 3 different antenna?

Terry

 

[Analoguesat]

Generally identical although 2E (I think!)has a Middle East spotbeam on it.

 

[skomedal]

considering the 2F footprint,it would be useful to have a section of the forum where people can discuss about the alternative ways to watch the PSB channels,like iptv etc.

could start with the famous website showing uk psb channels free atm stream from pc to tv no iptv needed

 

[timo_w2s]

Generally identical although 2E (I think!)has a Middle East spotbeam on it.

The 2G Pan-European beam also favours the north and east a little better. Not much better, but it can hardly be worse than 2E & 2F!

 

[dvdfilm]

where do you see the footprints of 2E and 2G?

 

[deepbluesky]

_http://www.ses.com/4628866/astra-2e

_http://www.ses.com/4628824/astra-2g